Using A VPN Could Subject You To Government Surveillance, Senators Warn [Roundup]

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  1. @ Gary — Well, what’s worse, exposing my banking and loyalty program passwords to thieves in airport lounges, airplanes and hotels, or waiving my right to privacy?

  2. @ Gene – Why the knee-jerk reaction? Gary didn’t lecture you on what to do. He only relayed info. Your preference whether to trust the government is your own business. Nobody cares about it.

  3. Fun Fact: Unless you have a very specific use case such as remote access to company systems, you probably don’t need a VPN. Ordinary TLS and DoH are more than adequate.

  4. @ Mike — Why the personal attack? What was offensive about my comment? I was simply pointing out that not using a VPN may not be a great option, either.

  5. Trying to process the sale of the Greenbriar, a beautiful resort. The Justice family really could never afford it. I’ve only been a guest at a few Omni hotels, I’m not sure how this level of luxury will fit with Omni.

  6. So according to this stable genius Senator all you have to do to maintain your privacy is give up your privacy. What could possibly go wrong?

  7. @ Gene- Totally agree with you. I like a lot of people are just using a VPN when I travel because I don’t want to leave email, bank accounts, loyalty program accounts etc…vulnerable to hacking. Been using a VPN for years and I think that is a big reason my accounts have never been hacked yet even though I’ve been fortunate to travel all over the world at this point and have used a ton of public wifi. I credit VPNs for helping to keep my accounts safe and wouldn’t travel without them. Also want to mention that it has actually been the times I might have accidentally not had my VPN on when overseas that I run into trouble. One time my bank saw I was overseas and froze my account.

  8. Hey, Gary, friend, ole pal, as a website owner and thot leader, what can you tell about us commenters by our IP address, VPN or lack thereof?

    Where are the anti-privacy folks to pretend this is to ‘save the children’ or that we shouldn’t care ‘unless we have something to hide’… meanwhile, data brokers harvesting us like those tripods in War of the Worlds. *that sound*

  9. What’s wrong with foot thing? I get that gleff doesn’t like feet (he’s made that abundantly clear) but are you not permitted to put your feet anywhere in your personal space? I regularly sit cross legged with socks (and even bare feet if flying in flip flops). If airlines don’t want you footing, they should put up signs or make announcements. I agree that feet to seat back breaches social norms/decency but it’s 100% lawful IMO. I’m with the FA here.

  10. Well since we live in what is rapidly becoming an authoritarian police state … the VPN remark doesn’t surprise me a lot …. Especially since a lot of VPN use is related to watching porn in states that seem to want to limit that … you know because watching porn makes Jesus cry

  11. If the VPN isn’t being monitored by a government for the government to try to get your info on the sending or receiving side, the government can buy or otherwise try to order your online data from the communication service providers, marketing companies, website/online facilities/services and so on.

    You should ask which travel-related blogs and other travel related websites/forums have shared the potentially PII/tracking info from some site users with the government or even other travel-related forums. In some cases, such info has been shared with FlyerTalk admins/moderators, but who am I to say anything about that when FlyerTalk user PMs aren’t really private and their email accounts and smartphones aren’t as secure as they believe them to be with the use of 2FA.

  12. Couple of points: 1) The warning is specific to VPN services offered by foreign-headquartered companies using servers located overseas. In many cases, VPN Services offered by USA-headquartered companies use servers elsewhere in the USA, so this is a non-issue. 2) As noted by Gene, using a VPN to maintain a secure and private connection with your bank and/or brokerage is way more important than shielding communications from the Federal Government (unless of course you really are a criminal). 3) To @FacePalm’s point, we DO NOT live in what is rapidly becoming an authoritarian police state, we HAD BEEN living in such a police state. Thanks to the severly weaponized “Intelligence Branch” (FBI, CIA, NSA, etc), Obama-Biden used Operation Arctic Frost alone to surveil 92 political adversaries, including telephone records, email records, geolocation records, more than 150 interviews, more than 400 subpoenas, and more than 60 search warrants (which included seizures of electronic devices). All of this despite the fact that they knew in advance no crime had been committed.

  13. @TexasTJ — “we DO NOT live in what is rapidly becoming an authoritarian police state, we HAD BEEN living in such a police state.” Laughable. Either we are now, or we are not, in-general.

    @jack the ladd — “Praise be to A…” You gotta admit, that was wild!

  14. Go for it Senator. I’m pretty sure you’re too IT phobic to understand how good vpns work. You’re going to spend millions to survey the wrong person and then get sued.

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