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This week I applied for a Chase Sapphire Reserve for BusinessSM (See rates and fees), American Express® Business Gold Card (See rates and fees) and Capital One Venture X Business. The results of my applications surprised me a little bit.
- Sapphire Reserve for BusinessSM earn 200,000 bonus points after you spend $30,000 on purchases in your first 6 months from account opening. They promote more than $2,500 in annual value from things like The EditSM hotels credit and travel credit and other statement credits.
And of course the $795 annual fee card comes with access to the Chase Sapphire Lounges and Priority Pass Select, each with up to two complimentary guests.
Chase Sapphire Lounge Philadelphia - American Express® Business Gold Card earn 100,000 Membership Rewards points after $15,000 spend on eligible purchases within the first 3 months of cardmembership.
This $375 annual fee card earns 4X Membership Rewards on the top two eligible categories with the most spending each month out of 6 eligible categories (on up to $150,000 spend annually). There’s also a $20 monthl credit for eligible U.S. purchases at FedEx, Grubhub, and Office Supply Stores.
- Capital One Venture X Business Earn 150,000 bonus miles when you spend $30,000 in the first 3 months. There a $300 travel credit against the card’s $395 annual fee, and there’s a 10,000 mile annual anniversary bonus at renewal. Venture X Business’s Priority Pass will continue to include guest access.
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Amex Business Gold and Venture X Business were approved instantly. The Sapphire Reserve for Business was not. I’m used to that. Chase rarely gives me instant approvals anymore. However, I’ve actually never been rejected by Chase. Not once. Until now?
After about 48 hours I received a letter in my Chase account saying that I had too many open accounts with Chase and too much credit. They also noted that the credit they were extending me was underutilized.
It’s almost frightening how much credit Chase extends to me. I’ve been a customer for decades and over time I’ve changed between different preferred cards that they offer. And instead of cancelling old cards I first move the credit off those cards onto the acconts I’m keeping. During the Great Recession they did drop the available credit on a United card by about $40,000. But otherwise I’ve just been adding to the credit they’re extending to me for many years.
I called Chase’s business reconsideration line. I explained that I really didn’t need more credit or even more cards, I just really liked the Sapphire Reserve for BusinessSM and wanted to use that one; that it was true I hadn’t been using some other cards that much so it was fine to close a card if I needed to or move some credit off of it so that they could approve me.
I was transferred to another rep, we repeated the same conversation, they pulled up my accounts and asked what I wanted to do. I suggested moving $30,000 off of a no annual fee Ink card that had $44,000 in available credit. She made the notes, put me on hold, submitted the request and it came back approved. I thanked her and went on with the day.
In 30 years of credit cards I’ve only actually spoken to Chase reconsideration once before, 11 or 13 years ago, applying for a British Airways card. That time I think I called them while the decision was still pending. I’ve learned patience over time and don’t do that anymore. I just wait – because until now waiting always turned into an approval on its own.
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Exact same experience with Chase Business Reserve; after I called they made an effort to approve me.
Clutch, congrats! Glad it all worked out in the end.
Assume you were under 5/24?
We’ve all been there. Glad Chase has a legitimate reconsideration team, unlike some issuers. Meanwhile, over at Capital One, they seem to only want folks who carry a balance and aren’t above 800 credit score.
Your experience with Chase on this new card was similar to mine for at least part of it.
I got declined due to too much open credit and underutilization, but I also got declined because I had only recently applied for the new United Chase business card.
How much longer do you think they’ll be offering 200k?
And, how long should I wait until I try again?
Thanks!!!
75k spend in three months, and presumably none of it is MS? #goals
@Zakon — For real… cha-ching!
@Beachfan – I was approved despite having many cards with Chase and being at 5/24.
Interesting, I have to talk to Chase reconsideration 50% of the time for business cards. Also, I am a chase private client. Credit score is over 800 (850/850) last pull. I think they just have some internal formula. My good buddy got the same denial as you, called reconsideration and they seemed like they were going to approve him. He offered to close cards or transfer credit, they said not necessary. He got denied again a few days later.
@Paul Davis – I also recently was approved for the United Business Card. I do not know how long the offer will be available.
@Beachfan – yes, my new card openings have mostly been business cards
I applied last week and Chase said same thing. Which number should I call for reconsideration? Thanks!
Chase refuses to issue new credit card to me for years after being blacklisted in 2019 for “rewards abuse” for excessive manufactured spending across numerous chase ink cards buying gift cards at office supply stores at 5x points, tens of thousands of dollars of spending monthly in the good old days
Bro – what are you doing carrying a 30K credit card balance? How much in interest are you paying on that?
@That’s a lot of interest – I do not carry balances or pay interest
@Thats a lot of interest — That’s why they call Gary ‘the points g..’ never mind. Uh, you’re still the GOAT in my book. You’ve got real ‘taking Roy off the grid’ vibes. Respect.
I have found I cannot MS anymore at any of my old outlets. That has slowed me down from getting the cards with extremely high minimum spends. Wish I could find new MS outlets. Been in the hobby for decades.