Crew Declares Israel ‘Terrorist State,’ Summons Police To Drag 50 Jewish Kids Off Flight For Singing In Hebrew, Violently Arrest Camp Director

A group of about 50 French Jewish children, aged 10-15, were kicked off of a Vueling flight in Valencia along with their camp director. They were enroute back to France.

The group was singing Hebrew songs onboard the Airbus A320, triggering objections from crew. Vueling staff reportedly called Israel a “terrorist state” and didn’t want Hebrew singing onboard. The camp director, a 21‑year‑old woman, was forcibly removed from the aircraft and “arrested and beaten.”

After he stopped singing, police stormed the plane a few minutes later, ordering the band director and the children to leave the plane, which had not yet taken off… Once they left the plane, the police ordered them to place their cell phones on the ground to check that the arrest had not been filmed, prompting the director to intervene, claiming that what they were doing was illegal.

The police officers then pinned the 21-year-old woman to the ground and handcuffed her before taking her away, while the children aged between 13 and 15 remained with their instructors.

Israel’s Diaspora Affairs Minister Amichai Chikli shared video of the incident:

Vueling, which is owned by British Airways parent IAG, has not released any official public statement or social post from the airline has been issued. Spanish authorities have made no formal comment beyond acknowledging that police were involved in enforcing airline crew requests.

I can understand objecting to a group singing, playing musical instruments, or nearly anything else on a plane. I can understand politely asking them to stop. Having an issue with the singing because or responding to it by saying that “Israel is a terrorist state” is certainly one way to handle things. Vueling, it seems, decided to globalize the intifada. Meanwhile, Spain expelled Jews in 1492 – but ironically this time wouldn’t let them leave.

Update: Here’s additional video of the group being bused after being kicked off the aircraft.

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Comments

  1. The level of antisemitism in the world is absolutely vile! I hope the airline gets sued out of existence.

  2. RunningJock: If you’re willing to accept what Karma would be for a murderous rampage across Israel.

    Since you’re blaming Israel for defending itself, it’s clear that you didn’t leave the lesson, and you have successfully been duped by the world MSM and governments who shamelessly partner with Hamas in amplifying their outlandish propaganda.

  3. The Karma will be when there are no more Brits and Spaniards left. You let them take over your countries, and you’re surprised?

  4. @ RunningJock – if you’re a f**king anti-Semite, which obviously you are.

    There’s no circumstance under which this is remotely acceptable. But, they’re FRENCH, they’re not Israeli. I’m too enraged to properly respond.

  5. Long time poster here, and an actual camp director and I sell scheduling software for camps. (I was able to get camp scheduling dot com).

    Something is really off here. I have escorted many buses and flights and while there has been interesting incidents, there is always a reason why things get out of hand? Or exaggerated.

    Clicks sell. Let’s get the data first before making judgements.

  6. @running jock
    GFY
    We will never be beat
    Nobody gives a sh1t about the gazans
    People have tried for years to destroy us but a~hols like you we chew for breakfast

  7. I respect that flight crews can basically remove anyone they want off a plane for almost any reason, however, this just doesn’t feel right at all. They’re children! When a Christian Bible camp brings out the guitars and starts singing on a Southwest flight (see: April 2022, “How Great Is Our God”), why is no one kicked off there? This is also especially odd, because there’s a large Sephardic diaspora in Spain and Portugal; you’d think they’d be more aware. *sigh* Welp, even before this, I knew better than to trust Vueling unless I really have to (there are, after all, more nonstops to BCN with them to unique airports).

  8. Ultimately it’s the MSM, the UN and all its organs, the human “wrongs” NGOs, and certain Western governments who are responsible for constantly fueling the flame of Jew hate worldwide with their daily propaganda.

    In a normal world, none of these stories would be published as they are such obvious lies. Check out Gazawood for thousands of Pallywood videos.

  9. Low cost = Low class crew..
    With an uneducated, brainwashed, racist crew, what do you expect?

  10. “police stormed the plane a few minutes later, ordering the band director and the children to leave the plane, which had not yet taken off… …”

    Gary – I think it can be inferred that the police wouldn’t storm a plane that had already taken off.

  11. There has to be more to the story. Right now it’s clickbait. Jon Biederman is right – something very off with this story. Time will tell.

  12. @Common Sense — I’ve called you out on this before, but your use of ‘Jew’ above is a bit… ‘off.’

    Like, I hope you do actually care, but it seems more like you’re just fanning the flames here, which, because it’s VFTW, and nearly anything goes, you can do whatever Gary will allow, but, just keep in mind, if you’re genuinely referring to and in support of the Jewish people, there are better ways to express that.

    That said, you’re always welcome to attack me personally and call me whatever silly names you’d like. I still enjoy that. Very much. Feed me.

  13. (Like, note how Gary referred to them as ‘Jewish Kids,’ and not ‘Jew Kids’ in the title. I think you know better. I’ve met a lot of antisemites that use ‘Jew’ in the way you do. Just sayin’…)

  14. I am absolutely appalled that a flight crew would brand Israel a “terrorist state” and forcibly remove around 50 young Jewish children (and violently arrest their 21‑year‑old camp director) simply for singing in Hebrew. This is blatant religious and ethnic discrimination, pure intolerance in its most disgraceful form, and must be condemned wholeheartedly by all decent people.

  15. It’s disturbing to witness some right-wingers (including #45/47) misuse the serious charge of antisemitism to merely go after political opponents and perceived enemies in their ‘culture war’ against ‘the left’ and so-called ‘wokeness’ in the USA and abroad.

    I question whether they actually care about the Jewish people in Isreal or the United States, because it seems like they’re just using them as a weapon to gain and maintain their own power. After all, the guys in khakis and with the tiki torches in Charlottesville seem to support #45/47 and think He’s their guy. How does all that add up?

    Similar to how anyone who dares question the CCP is automatically deemed ‘xenophobic.’ Like, I have no problem with Chinese people; I am just not supportive of authoritarian dictatorships. I like this whole ‘self-determination’ thing. And being able to speak-out if I’m not a fan of something. Liberty, or whatever.

    If someone’s got a better idea, please, do share.

  16. Gary, please post updates if you find out any more, or whether Vueling just gets away with it.

  17. It’s telling that the assumption of the crew is that all Jews must be in favor of, be part of, and deserve the blame and punishment for the actions of the Israeli government. THAT is anti-semitism.

  18. 1990: I am trying to figure out what part of Jew-hate is inaccurate. I dislike the term anti-Semitism as it tends to water down the description of what it actually is.

    Regarding the rest of the post, I honestly don’t have any idea of what you mean.

  19. This is plain Jew hatred, and against innocent kids who have nothing to do with any wars elsewhere in the middle east. This airline deserves to be sued into oblivion.

  20. @Common Sense — I appreciate the clarification. It remains a disturbing incident. Hope we learn more soon.

    @Tom — That’s right. And if similar reasoning (or lack thereof) was used against us, Americans wouldn’t be able to travel overseas much either. Like, if we were individually blamed for each and every regrettable civilian casualty in Iraq, that’d be absurd. There is a cost of security and peace; it’s not always clean, but sometimes it is necessary.

  21. @1990: I wasn’t even commenting on this story. I don’t know enough to be sure, but it definitely doesn’t look good. I don’t seek to jump to already formed conclusions. I can afford to wait for the truth to come out. I don’t act like the BBC and others, pumping out daily messages from Hamas about massacres that are disproven immediately and they do the same thing day after day without shame.

    They don’t even bother anymore. Anyone with two brain cells could see the stories make no sense. Israel doesn’t need to gather people together in order to kill them. If they wanted to kill civilians they could have wiped out every person in Gaza on October 8th without losing single soldier. Instead they are going from booby-trapped house to booby-trapped house and have lost over 800 fine, young men so far. And they are rewarded with the idiots trying to arrest them for “genocide”. Have you ever seen a country being responsible to feed an enemy population?

    I can go on and on about the insanity of what passes for normal in today’s world.

  22. Can’t play the video — if there is a recording of a crewmember referring to Israel as a terrorist state, well, that would be valuable data.

    Please keep us posted, Gary.

    Off topic a bit, but it makes me recall an American Jewish colleague (professor) who was awarded a Fullbright to teach in an Arab (U.S. ally) country. It lasted a few weeks before she called it quits and came home. There was harassment and implied threats, but the tipping point was the mandatory campus rally that included a everyone singing a song about “marching to Jerusalem and killing all the Jews.”

    Yeah, time to leave.

  23. The reason apparently given by the crew isn’t savory, and I also wonder why would a group would think it’s appropriate or polite to break out in song on a plane they didn’t charter exclusively.

  24. If Israel keeps conflating all jews with Israel, this is going to keep happening. Not all Jews support Zionism or the Israeli government but the propaganda is that they’re one and the same.

  25. @Hal: Were done with you educating Jews on what Judaism is or isn’t.

    Keep your garbage to yourself.

    @Thing1: What a sad example of the hate and indoctrination that goes on in the Arab world and that they are trying to import to the West.

  26. By Hal’s logic, if Syrian government allows its militia to keep killing Druze we should expect that Syrians will be harassed when they fly. Ditto for Burmese because the government of Myanmar is killing the Rohinga. And don’t forget the Chinese, where the government is committing genocide against the Uyghers and Tibetans.

    Of course in this case they were not even Israelis, but French nationals.

  27. The Reason Israel exists is because European Christians tried to exterminate them in WWII. But age old antisemitism is a culture in Europe .The importation of millions of Muslims by Europeans is a suicidal act. Unlike the Jewish religion it seeks to dominate and conquer . While the newly imported Muslims help amplify antisemitism now they will set their sights on the rest of Europeans in time. It does not appear there are enough rational Europeans to stop it.

  28. Their is a time and a place for singing its not on a plane during boarding for one nor when the flight is operating this is not france got talent.

  29. @1990 – “Similar to how anyone who dares question the CCP is automatically deemed ‘xenophobic.’ Like, I have no problem with Chinese people; I am just not supportive of authoritarian dictatorships. I like this whole ‘self-determination’ thing. And being able to speak-out if I’m not a fan of something. Liberty, or whatever.”

    Probably one of the smartest observations you’ve made on this forum to date, at least that I’ve seen. And this is precisely where Trump failed miserably during his first term. He should have been saying this at every pandemic press conference, but he completely failed to point out this distinction even once that I can recall.

  30. Where is President Macron’s protest against such treatment of French citizens? The silence is deafening.

  31. How stupid is anyone to take news reports from Hamas at face value? You really think Israel is mowing down civilians at aid centers? And you unquestioningly take this from the same people that butchered women and infants? The fact that leftist media in the US and Europe is reporting this and previous Hamas lies as fact sadly is obviously working to brainwash an entire generation of retards. You own this one, leftists. The funny thing is, you really don’t want to win this. You really think fundamentalist islam is your ally? You’re dumb.

  32. Hal:

    Your comment is hateful trash.

    Even if they were Israelis, treating them like this is bigoted and antisemitic.
    SHAME ON HAL for justifying antisemitism.

  33. Running Jock:

    On what basis is this Karma?

    Do you support bigotry and antisemitism?

    Your comment is hateful trash.

  34. @Common Sense

    It would seem that they are not trying to import the hate and indoctrination but rather that they have already succeeded.

  35. For the record, my praise of 1990 (which, at the time of this writing, is still awaiting moderation) specifically with respect to the China distinction he made was in complete isolation — and most certainly not at all in relation to that distinction as it he feels it relates to Israel. I submit that any such equivalence is completely inapt, and I am in full agreement with Mantis and Common Sense on this subject.

  36. For the ‘GeNoCiDe’ idiots:
    wow. A new level of sh_ty antisemism. Genocide/ethnic cleansing? The population of gaza grown 6× in 60 years.
    Every few years some idio&!ts like you accuse us of ‘GeNoCiDe’ while their population grown ×6 times. Man! We SUCK at GeNoCidE……

    Also, Funny so tell me, if we kill ‘innocent civillians’, why arent we using UNGUIDED rockets like gaza use to shot at us? Why do we use a 50M$ jet-armed with a 40K$ GUIDED missile in order to shot a 2$ terrorist? Ha? …….Go spit your antisemic bullsh*t somehwere else. ‘Genocide’ is the blood liebel of yours. Like the 1500s blood libel of ‘jews kill christians to drink their blood in religious rituals’ that you believed in. BTW, have you ever seen any country providing its enemies with aid DURING WAR!?!?

    Its amazing how history repeats itself and the antisemic people will always justify their hate towards jews based on lies + lying with eyes wide open about the Jews. Weather its drinking christian blood and weather its believing other peopl’s lies about the Jews as if these lies were water in the desert. This way you feel you hate the Jews “for a reason” just to feed your inherited antisemic views.

  37. this is very similar to pre- holocoust thing. blaming the Jews for things they did not do. spain is like what it was in the inquisition era. they are like na*iz in the making.
    thats sad, thats scary, and they will pay for it.

  38. A crash course on history of the PALESTINIAN STATE:
    1. Before Israel, there was a British mandate, not a Palestinian state
    2. Before the British Mandate, there was the Ottoman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
    3. Before the Ottoman Empire, there was the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, not a Palestinian state.
    4. Before the Islamic state of the Mamluks of Egypt, there was the Ayubid Arab-Kurdish Empire, not a Palestinian state.
    5. Before the Ayubid Empire, there was the Frankish and Christian Kingdom of Jerusalem, not a Palestinian state.
    6. Before the Kingdom of Jerusalem, there was the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, not a Palestinian state.
    7. Before the Umayyad and Fatimid empires, there was the Byzantine empire, not a Palestinian state.
    8. Before the Byzantine Empire, there were the Sassanids, not a Palestinian state.
    9. Before the Sassanid Empire, there was the Byzantine Empire, not a Palestinian state.
    10. Before the Byzantine Empire, there was the Roman Empire, not a Palestinian state.
    11. Before the Roman Empire, there was the Hasmonean state, not a Palestinian state.
    12. Before the Hasmonean state, there was the Seleucid, not a Palestinian state.
    13. Before the Seleucid empire, there was the empire of Alexander the Great, not a Palestinian state.
    14. Before the empire of Alexander the Great, there was the Persian empire, not a Palestinian state.
    15. Before the Persian Empire, there was the Babylonian Empire, not a Palestinian state.
    16. Before the Babylonian Empire, there were the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, not a Palestinian state.
    17. Before the Kingdoms of Israel and Judah, there was the Kingdom of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
    18. Before the kingdom of Israel, there was the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, not a Palestinian state.
    19. Before the theocracy of the twelve tribes of Israel, there was an agglomeration of independent Canaanite city-kingdoms, not a Palestinian state.
    20. Actually, in this piece of land there has been lots of things, EXCEPT A PALESTINIAN STATE.
    (Borrowed from a friend)
    A little more history for those wanting to ‘restore Palestine’.
    In 132 AD the Emperor Hadrian resolved to stamp the Jews and their religion out of existence. He sold all Jewish prisoners into slavery after the revolt of Bar Kikhba, forbade the teaching of the Torah, renamed the province Syria Palaestina, and changed Jerusalem’s name to Aelia Capitolina. He renamed Israel to wipe out the national identity of Israel and the Jews.
    So if you are looking to ‘restore Palestine to the Palestinians’, you need to give it back to the Jews.

  39. I read a few articles about the incident.

    1. The crew would be within their right to demand the singing stops. The language or the lyrics don’t matter–as a passenger, the last thing I need is singing onboard, even in Hebrew (and I’m Jewish). Unfortunately, they didn’t stop there.
    2. What’s unclear is the role of the 21-year old camp director. If she encouraged kids to sing on the plane, well, she should’ve known better.
    3. Why the police had to arrest her like shown in the video is another question. If she resisted and escalated the situation instead of following the crew’s orders, however unfair she felt they were, again, she should’ve known better.
    4. We don’t know how many of the crew uttered about Israel being a “terrorist state.” Was it one of them? Were they all chanting like a slogan? If it was one bad actor, he must be fired. If more, I hope Vueling will be made to pay.
    5. Finally, those of you who could think of nothing better than using this post to spew anti-Semitic garbage, KARMA will come for you one way or another.

  40. Lets boycott Vueling and British Airways (in case they keep silent). Shame on them. Am Israel Chai!

  41. Isreal is it some inoccent country.

    They could start by removing the settlements from the west Bank. But as long as they occupy the West Bmk they are not a innocent country.

  42. @Eddie – what on earth does your view of Israel have to do with whether Vueling was justified in kicking children off a plane?

  43. I just crossed Vueling from my carrier list.

    Low cost carrier it was. Low intellectual strength carrier it is.

  44. @Eddie: Besides what Gary said, just because the anti Semitic UN says it’s a crime doesn’t make it one.

    Use your brains.

    What is the West Bank in the first place? What’s the real name for it? Why is it a crime for Jews to live there and not Arabs? Because the Jews were ethnically cleansed from the “West Bank” in 1948 by 7 genocidal Arab armies who wanted to push them into the sea, doesn’t make it ok to do it again after the Jews won back their land in a defensive war in 1967.

  45. For some light humor in the midst of this horror: @Construction — Was that a ‘Happy Gilmore’ reference (Shooter McGavin)? Like, @Doug gave you the layup there. Nice.

  46. @Mike Hunt @Mantis — I can compartmentalize the separate issues here (the broader history, the October attacks, the ongoing ‘war’).

    First, the state of Israel and the Jewish people have a right to exist, and to defend themselves. I find overuse of the g-word and the a-word (trying to avoid auto-moderation, but referring to South Africa) are not appropriate. The student protests in the US and elsewhere have simply gone too far.

    Second, the incident on this flight does appear to be a bad handling of a situation that could have been de-escalated without removal (if the crew really felt this was a disruption to the safe operation of the aircraft); however, we need to know more information on that. (To me, it doesn’t seem like a genuine safety issue, but it’s not ‘my call). If the motivation was actual animus and discrimination (anti-semitism), then the airline should be prosecuted and likely compensate those harmed by their overreach (at the very least, refund, EU261, damages, etc.)

    Finally, no, I do not think any of it should become ‘left vs. right’ as it relates to domestic US political discourse, but it inevitably bas become that, and I think that’s a mistake (the right has weaponized this against the left, and for those of us in the middle it’s sad to watch). And my earlier point was that those attempts here and anywhere are a mere distraction from what should be tangible decisions on the security within that country (Israel), the wellbeing of all its people, and the humane treatment of passengers on any aircraft. Remember, I care about the better treatment of workers and consumers, generally.

    Alright, let’s keep it going!

  47. I didn’t see her being beaten, but I did see her resisting arrest. The bottom line is obvious (though who knows with some posters here?): no singing and the language is not relevant. It’s a group of kids. So, as long as the singing stopped soon after it was ordered stopped, the rest is overreaction.

  48. Regardless of what language they sang in, singing on the plane and refusing to stop when asked by crew is grounds for removal. How annoying

  49. This goes along way to show the creep of lefty extremism in the EU. That is nothing but disgusting

  50. It truly is amazing how openly anti-semitic and flat out racist some commenters are these days on aviation blogs

    about — KIDS from FRANCE — NOT ISRAEL — singing religious songs and going to camp.

    WtF to all you commenters? What is wrong with you? These are kids going to camp from France. WTF is wrong with you? Go comment about PM Netanyahu on the Jerusalem Post website or something.

    You people are just messed up in the head to blame these kids or their counselor for what’s happening in Israel and Gaza.

  51. Nothing to say about the children starving in Gaza? Sounds like Gary considers some people more equal than others.

  52. @Connor — Yeah, why does the post about a specific incident on a flight in a blog about aviation, travel, and credit cards not include a deep dive on humanitarian crises around the world… Like, how’s South Sudan going? And did we forget about the earthquake in Myanmar? Are the women in Afghanistan doing any better? Oh, and, there’s still a literal land-war in Europe (Russia’s unjust ‘war of choice’ against Ukraine.) Gary should have mentioned those, too, right?

  53. @condor: Besides for what 1990 is saying, children in Gaza are getting more calories in per person than many countries in the EU.

    Please take some of the aid destined for Gaza and send it to Sudan and other countries where children are actually starving.

  54. @Gary can you update this story with the airline’s published statement on what happened? I feel like this is one of the incidents where having both sides of the story would benefit readers.

    According the Vueling the group repeatedly ignored instructions to stop singing, tampered with safety equipment, disrupted the safety demonstration and were repeatedly confrontational with the crew.

    While not confirmed there are reports from other passengers on the plane that the children were chanting “death to arabs”.

  55. This is not the US where cabin crew/Flight Attendants can just make the decision to remove passengers as they wish for ridiculous reasons. The Captain would have definitely been involved in the decision.

    As reported in The Independent (UK) newspaper today. The passengers were disruptive, tampering with emergency equipment and interfered with the safety demonstration.

    Response from Vueling:

    A Vueling spokesperson said the passengers were removed after the minors repeatedly tampered with the plane’s emergency equipment and interrupted the crew’s safety demonstration.

    “A group of passengers engaged in highly disruptive behaviour and adopted a very confrontational attitude, putting at risk the safe conduct of the flight,” Vueling said in a statement.

    “We categorically deny any suggestion that our crew’s behaviour related to the religion of the passengers involved.”

    A Civil Guard spokesperson said the captain of the plane ordered the removal of the minors from the plane at Valencia’s Manises Airport after they repeatedly ignored the crew’s instructions.

  56. This sounds like a perfect way to treat the “chosen ones”……..meanwhile in Gaza they are starving 2 million humans… …

  57. @Andy & @Duck Ling — You guys conveniently left out this part of those articles: “On Thursday, the Federation for Jewish Communities of Spain expressed concern about the incident. The group said that Vueling needed to provide documentary evidence of what happened on the plane.” (Associated Press) It’s one thing to allege or claim, another to ‘prove.’ Let’s see what happens.

  58. @SAS — Listen, I read the NYTimes, too, and they’ve been nonstop, front page, last two days, all about ‘starving,’ less about Epstein, or anything else going on in the world. So, what’s up with that?

  59. This is a highly biased article, you claim they were beaten, but offered no evidence. Cited nothing to back that claim up.

    The same goes for your claim that the crew told them that ‘israel is a terrorist state’
    The suggestion that they didn’t simply ask them to stop at first, and immediately escalated to security/police.

    You quote only the side accusing the airline of improper, and antisemitic behaviour.
    You have not even mentioned how the airline denies these claims and their version of events.

    When more information comes out, will you retract or edit this?

  60. 1) I see zero comments so far on what I consider by far the worst part of this–the police trying to make sure the arrest wasn’t filmed. I consider that to be something that should end their career.

    2) Send the aid to Sudan? Same problem: it doesn’t get there. Gaza doesn’t have an actual shortage of food, they have Hamas manufacturing a shortage of food. Sudan probably actually has a shortage of food but you still can’t solve it by shipping food because it will be intercepted.

    3) What were they singing? There are not a lot of non-Jews that speak Hebrew. How many not in the group could even understand them? Remember that just because a word sounds like one you know doesn’t make it have the same meaning. I’m sure everyone on here has seen some of those road signs that have the vulgar word for flatulence–except it actually means “speed”.

  61. Loren.

    This is NOT the USA. Please do not expect that in other countries whilst you are being arrested it is OK to just get your phone out and start filming police officer or other officials.

    I repeat.- this is NOT the USA.

    @Andy & @Duck Ling — You guys conveniently left out this part of those articles: “On Thursday, the Federation for Jewish Communities of Spain expressed concern about the incident. The group said that Vueling needed to provide documentary evidence of what happened on the plane.” (Associated Press) It’s one thing to allege or claim, another to ‘prove.’ Let’s see what happens.

    That goes both ways. Where is the documentary evidence that the crew alleged that Israel was a “terrorist state” or that the camp leader was “beaten” (which is a HUGE deal!). You can not say on the one hand ‘it is one thing to allege or claim’ yet on the other accept a recount as FACT.

    And what documentary evidence do you want from Vueling? CCTV footage? Audio recording? I am sure there are 100-odd unrelated passengers that were onboard that could quite easily clear up the ‘allegation’ of the young group being disruptive and non compliant.

    Personally when I travel I am respectful of those around me. I do not play audio on my personal device without headphones let alone sing songs group style. I don’t care whether it is a christian song, a jewish song, an islamic song or someones Metallica song on their device – I do not want to hear it, I expect the crew to intervene and ask them to be quiet and I expect them to abide by this request.

  62. Jewish playing the Jewish card, again. Apparently they were disrupting a flight, and failed to follow crew instructions. Reason enough to be taken off the flight. Enough with the terrorist state, Hebrew song and nonsense. Learn how to behave on a plane.

  63. I am very curious what the song they were singing, because a lot of Israeli “camp songs” are straight up inhuman, calling for the death of Palestinians (particularly the children) and declaring that greater Israel is Jewish land.

  64. Litch:

    There has NEVER been a Jewish camp song that calls for the death of anyone (including PAlestinians). Why do you make antisemitic lies?

  65. Sadly, I was completely off yesterday presuming that the group of Jewish kids and their counselors might’ve been in the wrong. Dan of Dan’sDeals fame conducted his preliminary, and yes, Dan is Jewish, but the passengers’ testimonies he’d found aren’t from Jews.

    TL;DR: It doesn’t seem good for Vueling.
    1. Before the boarding the counselor told them to remove everything that would identify them as Jews.
    2. No, the kids weren’t singing; they were quiet and polite.
    3. Vueling’s statement seems to be a a glaring display of corporate mendacity.
    4. The same lawyer who’d sued Lufthansa seems to be interested in the case, so, yes: KARMA.
    https://www.dansdeals.com/more/news/airline-news/vueling-kicks-50-jewish-campers-off-flight-what-happened

  66. Telling 50 passengers to get off the plane and then having to remove their checked-in luggage — must have caused quite an inconvenience for all the passengers, even the ones who weren’t instructed off the plane.

    Can a few dozen happy camper kids be a problem on a flight when traveling without their own parents and just “monitored” by some young counselors? Without a doubt. There are smart ways to handle disruptive kids and there are stupid ways to handle it. But unsurprisingly racism tends to make for stupid outcomes, just like anti-“black”, anti-“brown” and anti-Muslim racism combined post-9-11 to fast track the US toward liberal democracy-destroying fascism and delivered the rule of Orange Wannabe Idi Amin who will — unlike “The Last King of Scotland — be in Scotland this weekend.

    If the French kids doing this were singing in a different Semitic language than Hebrew — say Arabic — and doing the same stuff, maybe they too would be dealt with the same way; or maybe not. Over-policing ethnic minorities has an ugly history on all the continents with regularly scheduled common carrier passenger flights.

  67. @GUWonder — I’m with you that such discrimination especially targeting groups based on race, religion, national origin, sex, or disability should be prohibited.

    As to your attempts at hyperbole… I’ll add: ‘His Excellency, President for Life, Field Marshal… Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas and Conqueror of the British Empire in Africa in General and Uganda in Particular…’ The depiction of that absurd real-life dictator in the 1977 film, ‘Raid on Entebbe,’ starring Charles Bronson, is worth the watch as well; and, yes, the 2006 film, with Forest Whitaker and James McAvoy, was riveting on its own.

    I’m no fan of #45/47, but he’s no Idi Amin… yet. Give it a little more time! He hasn’t come out in the military uniform, then we’ll be nearly there.

  68. Thus the “Wannabe” in my comment. He did have a bigger military parade of expensive tanks than Idi Amin ever did.

    When the wannabe has his final Hulk Hogan moment courtesy of McDonald’s finishing its job on his cardiovascular system, will his remains have to be buried in a secret location so people don’t pull an Ozzy Osbourne at Alamo moment with delivering a golden shower to the site?

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