Delta Air Lines has announced an interior cabin refresh. They’re tying this to their 100 year anniversary, presenting a new more modern image. The palette is darker. They won’t swap out seats, just add memory foam padding to some seats. And they’re adding new lighting. Naturally this is pitched as being “premium” and a new interior, to most passengers, feels like new planes.
Key Design Elements
Delta’s new cabin interiors are characterized by deeper shades of blue and grey, with red accents. Royal blue leather seats will be replaced by a darker navy blue, complemented by grey stitching and red trim throughout all classes.
Delta is also rolling decorative motifs like the “Infinite Grid” and “Celestial Sky” patterns that will adorn bulkheads, dividers, and lavatories.
Lighting and Ambiance
Delta’s cabin refresh includes mood lighting designed for various phases—boarding, dining, and sleeping-shifting through warm tones for boarding and meals, while a “sunset glow” is meant to ease passengers into rest during overnight flights. As dawn approaches, the cabin lighting will gradually brighten.
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Lavatories will be refreshed with bright walls, the signature “Celestial Sky” pattern, and Azure Blue cabinets. Flooring will be updated to improve appearance of cleanliness and traction. The lavs are still tiny though!
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Memory Foam and Seating Upgrades
Delta is not introducing new seats. Instead, memory foam cushions will be installed across some seats, from domestic first class to the long-haul economy.
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Delta One business class seats, traditionally covered in leather, will instead see a wool-nylon blend which the airline says is better at temperature regulation.
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Premium Select and domestic-style first-class cabins will also benefit from this memory foam change.
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Timeline for Implementation
The first Boeing 757 with the refreshed cabin design is expected to begin flying domestic and short-haul international routes later this year.
Early next year, the updated interior will make its debut on an Airbus A350 serving long-haul international routes.
Beyond that, Delta has not provided a detailed timeline for retrofitting the rest of its fleet, except to say they will do it gradually and over a period of years, subject to delays for operational needs (they don’t want a bunch of aircrafts out of service for this).
Lipstick On A Pig?
Darker tones and modern design do seem sleek and elegant, but also lack the distinctiveness that previously set Delta apart – seemingly generic in appearance along the lines of Air Canada and Air France cabins.
Is the new color scheme better than the current blue?
It’s far from clear how memory foam and breathable fabrics will translate into comfort. You may see this as a new investment in the product, but it’s also a cheaper approach compared to actually replacing seats. No matter how many times Delta repeats the word ‘premium’ in its marketing of this refresh that will take many years, any issues with service, wifi and inflight meals remain.
Ultimately I’ll have to see it in person, and sit in the seats for several hours, to have a fully-developed opinion of what the airline announced today.
@ Gary — The seats look poor, like Spirit Airlines.
Hey you at least have to give them credit for doing a mockup (check out the video in their PR piece). As opposed to AA when they did the 737 Oasis project…
Delta is drawing inspiration from Air France. The cabin interiors, specifically the seat coverings in Economy look very similar. The expense and scale of this project is enormous. The existing Delta cabins are increasingly dated (save for the refreshed Delta One suites) and really haven’t had much in the way of revision since the 2007 era rebrand that coincided with the bankruptcy exit.
@Gary
Can you believe (I got their bragadocious email this morning) they are STARTING this process on their 757s? You know the oldest-still-flying 757 fleet; the fleet that should be beer cans by now.
The fleet that should have long since been replaced by A321NEOs.
I mean DAL are detached from reality, but they aren’t completely dummmm. This is a low-cost way to “freshen” a stale fleet, but it’s sorta trying to hide the situation. Their fleet is old. The MAX10s aren’t coming any time soon. And they should have bought more A321 derivatives when they had the chance.
anyone that doesn’t understand that Delta is doing a cosmetic refresh that involves a change in materials and with that comes the opportunity to change color schemes is missing the point.
I have sat in far more broken seats on other airlines than I have on Delta so they do maintain what they have.
Delta has long refreshed its cabins including w/ AVOD and WiFi long before other airlines have done, if they are doing it at all.
Materials change and Delta has the opportunity to use new fabrics and materials and change colors, the perception and use of which changes for everyone.
And Burt, United has the oldest fleet in the US, not Delta. And Delta has some of the last 757s which came off the assembly line. They are retiring several 757s this week and will continue to do that for those that have reached the end of their life but the notion that the 757 should be sent out to pasture comes from those that are clueless about how great of an airplane Boeing once built.
And, yes, the massive growth plans of some airlines are just not happening. Neither Boeing or Airbus can produce the number of airplanes that some airlines want.
Delta has long established that it takes care of its planes until it sends them to the desert. This is just the latest in a long series of cabin refreshes.
The decorative motifs and mood lighting sound interesting! 🙂
Um. Navy “breathable” fabric is likely to hide the nastiness that occurs between deep cleaning. ( ha ). My guess is this is why it was selected.
You can bet your last dollar that these new seats will be thinner possibly allowing for another row.
@TimDunn —> I agree…but it’s still lipstick on a pig.
“Delta has long refreshed its cabins including w/ AVOD and WiFi long before other airlines have done, if they are doing it at all.”
Yeah, no. Delta is woefully behind aa on WiFi and even United had satellite wifi before delta
Delta still doesn’t wifi on some mainline planes, at all, still uses Gogo on a large number of the 717s, and still doesn’t have a satellite provider that provides global coverage while United and AA both do.
Facts, tim. Not your hopes and dreams of what you desperately want to be true
In other news, Tim fully admitted that Tim Dunn is not his real name on OMAAT today after lying about that here and other places for quite some time.
Apparently, it’s ok to lie when you think MaxPower is my real name per Tim’s response.
pmNW DC9s, DC10s, 727s and 747-200s had the proverbial “Don’t laugh its paid for” bumper sticker on them 🙂
I think that same philosophy lives on at DL with their A319s, A320s, 757s and 767s. Would have also added the 717s, but read somewhere those will be retired next year.
It will probably take 10 years for these changes to work their way down to the regional jets, if they ever do. Meanwhile, the A330s in Delta One are way, way past their expiration date.
However, it is Premium Lipstick on a PIG.
Polishing a turd still makes it a turd, although in this case, it’s a premium turd.
I fly the A321T on AA in J regularly. Their seats are fabric covered. I never thought fabric was any less comfortable than leather.
A premium move would be to add a couple of inches of legroom to all seats but Delta won’t do that because they only love premium when it costs them little to nothing.
Anything Delta does has to be perfect because Delta is the world’s only PERFECT airline. Just ask Tim Dunn.
of course, Brian Gasser, materials change and the move to faux leather is swinging back to fabric.
But people who have no clue what they are talking about are convinced that they personally are getting ripped off even when they don’t even fly Delta.
and, Max, you simply live in a fantasy land of interpreting reality that no other person on the planet is capable of.
YOU are the fraud that makes up names for which the only correct interruption is MAX hypocrisy.
and no other airline on the planet has even close to 600 airplanes in their fleet w/ free, high speed WiFi – and certainly not AA OR UA.
you clearly have a bugger up your backside about WiFi and you look more and more like the fool that you are when you keep arguing about what DL doesn’t have when it is clear that AA and UA are the laggards.
With the occasional post about Delta Gary gives someone a reason to get out of bed and turn on his computer……
I don’t understanding why you’re continuously bashing the only decent airline that America has to offer. They’re doing exactly what they’re saying: replacing padding and covers to seats that are more than competitive, all with large screens, and that don’t need replacing.
It’s like you have something against America — instead of celebrating its excellences (rare in the airline business), you bash at it.
Thank goodness they are moving to cloth in D1. Those pleather seats w/o duvets are the worst. Nothing but sweat trying to sleep. Let’s start with the LATAM A350s- What a horrid looking/shabby product up front. Flew one back from DUB that made the worn 763s look new.
Jake,
Gary looks for everything possible to write about and turn a slanted eye to with bias, regardless of the topic – because he think that generates page clicks.
It takes about 3 days of reading VFTW to find out that human behavior is basically the same regardless of the situation so all of his anecdotal bad passenger/employee stories turn out the same.
Gary tries to cover the industry and gets the facts right but then embellishes the story to try to make it chat-worthy.
JCW,
Delta added mattress pads to D1 months ago and they work quite nicely.
and the ex-Latam 359 refurbishment program is starting 3 years after DL put the aircraft in service. That’s how long the supply chain and MRO capacity takes to schedule. It took UA 7 years to complete its Polaris rollout while AA simply quick maintaining its A330s and 767s and then dumped them only to allow DL and UA to further pull away as the US’ global airlines.
In contrast to both AA and UA, DL has almost 5 dozen widebodies that have suites w/ doors in business class so DL not only had the forethought to upgrade its product but to get ahead of the competition.
This latest refurb is just one of the soft cabin refurbs DL has done; they consistently update materials and in this case are changing some of their color scheme in the process.
The real measure of success will be how fast they complete this conversion or even push past 50% of their fleet. I am betting the 50% plus mark will fall within 2 years which is what you can do by just changing soft cabin materials.
Noted, tim
No response to what I actually said
Just sad attempts at insults in reply
Got it. You don’t have a response
max,
you live in a fantasy land of your creating – projecting your own hypocrisy on others.
The fact that you can’t see it and carry arguments all over the web shows how deeply disturbed you are – and you can’t even see it.
YOU are the one that dwells in the land of fake and made-up
so what was made up about what I said, Tim? That United had satellite wifi installed while Delta still (and does) used GoGo as its primary? Of course United isn’t leading on satellite wifi speeds now but nothing about Delta and wifi induction has been industry leading. Even their free wifi (which good for delta. Certainly props to them for following JetBlue on this) copied other carriers and it still isn’t even rolled out across their entire fleet, much less those poor delta passengers flying 14 hours to JNB, SYD, PVG, HND, or AKL where they have NO WIFI thanks to Delta’s choices in providers.
That AA has had high speed wifi installed across their entire mainline fleet for years now while Delta has mainline planes still with GoGo and planes without any wifi whatsoever? Delta is not leading on wifi. That much is obvious.
Tell me, Tim. What was a fantasy? Your made up name and consistent lies about it being your real one while viciously attacking other commenters who CLEARLY used Nom de Plumes on here? when you lie, you get called out on it. Don’t lie. Don’t attack others for using usernames on here while you lie about your own name using one of MANY of your fake names over decades. It’s pretty simple.
If it’s your real name, Tim. Send a copy of your driver’s license to Gary so he can vouch for you. Perhaps it is. but you already admitted you’ve lied about it so your web just keeps growing. You’re the one living in a fantasy land of made up names over decades. WorldTraveller, ATL100Million, Tim Dunn, among many that caused airliners.net to ban you and your IP address (even your writing style since you kept buying new devices to desperately get back on; it’s truly sad how badly you wanted to get back on to be heard on there and the lengths you went to), Cranky to ban you temporarily and then to say that no one cares what you say, Lucky to consider publicly banning you….
But again. You didn’t respond to a thing I said about your name or Delta’s industry-lagging wifi rollouts. Learn the meaning of the word hypocrisy before you use it. You don’t seem to know what it means.
max,
first, it is you that fixate on user names because it is YOU that have a made up, fake name for which the only accurate translation is MAX hypocrisy.
I’ve met Gary in person. I don’t need to prove who I am. and you and only you are the only one that tries to attack someone else’s credibility based on a name when it is you that uses made up names.
You desperately want to silence people that speak the truth and expose your hypocrisy and manipulations of reality.
And you also fixate on WiFi trying to find fault with DL but you can’t accept accept that neither AA or UA have free global WiFi on all of their mainline and regional carrier flights.
DL isn’t there yet but has 2/3 of their mainline fleet w/ it now – heavily concentrated in N. America- but rolling it out in market after market across the Atlantic.
AA has stated no intention of going to free global WiFi while UA has just announced it will do it for all customers- and not just for T Mobile customers. DL will be through with its mainline fleet before UA makes its first revenue flight w/ StarLink and DL will be through with its regional carrier fleet before UA even completes its mainline fleet.
As with everything else, you argue incessantly about everything because you cannot accept the fact that it is Delta that is leading the industry in every respect other than putting a bunch of dots on route maps w/ seasonal, narrowbody, less than daily service. If that is your definition of leadership, then UA is your airline. In EVERY OTHER regard, DL is leading. and you can’t stand to admit it.
DL is changing the materials in its cabins and that is what this cabin refresh is about and changing the color palette of its onboard brand, something every other airline has done multiple times. DL will complete it long before UA completes “NEXTifying” its fleet – a project it announced years ago.
Grow up if it is at all possible.
I’ve never ever claimed Max Power is my name. You have said multiple times Tim Dunn is your real name when it is not. If you don’t like being called out for your own lies, then don’t lie.
I’m not fixated on wifi. I’m replying to your ignorant comment about Delta being industry-leading in wifi when they are not. They are the only carrier with gogo left on mainline planes. The only carrier with NO coverage in the Pacific, South Pacific, Africa, and most of South America. But kudos to you for your usual attempt at attacking me personally rather than responding to what I wrote. It’s very on brand for you.
I realize you prefer to just attack me when you’re called out for your own lies and falsehoods but don’t lie and you won’t get called out. Tim Dunn is not your real name so don’t attack me or others for using usernames. And yes. I know you’ve met Gary. You’ve written that in the comments before. Shouldn’t be an issue for you to prove to him that Tim Dunn is your real name, if it is. If it isn’t, that’s fine and I really don’t care but attacking me or others for usernames is beyond hypocritical when you’ve been using and do use fake names for decades. Do we really need to get back into how many times you’ve been banned by other websites for your fake names? If you’re going to post all over the internet, it’s interesting for others to know your true past. I’m well aware you don’t like others to know about your past. You’ve made that clear.
I haven’t criticized Delta putting lipstick on a pig like they’re doing. Stop trying to attack me for things I didn’t even say. Try reading. It helps inform how to respond to other users.
Enjoy your day, “Tim”
But again. You said ” you live in a fantasy land of your creating – projecting your own hypocrisy on others.”
Feel free to respond to with what I said that is a fantasy about Delta’s wifi or about your fake name. It’s notable that your only response to both is saying I live in a fantasy and not responding to anything I said with a factual response.
When people themselves refuse to accept reality and instead harp on incidentals, any rational person asks the question as to why you do what you do.
The answer is clearly that you can’t stand to admit the truth that I bring to the discussion.
No one except has failed to understand that DL’s global free high speed WiFi project is in process… but instead of accepting that DL is already 2/3 of the way to its goal and is rolling out new international markets every week, you harp on what is not there – while completing misrepresenting where AA and UA which is that neither airline has ANY AIRCRAFT with free high speed WiFi at this time.
And that brings us to your fixation with me. You desperately want to dominate the conversation with your own falsehoods and can’t stand that someone like me stays on you and counters your lies.
I am going nowhere. No one cares on this site what happens or happened elsewhere on the internet except someone like you that is pathologically unable to allow someone else to participate in a conversation that you want to control.
DL will do a soft refresh of its cabins and it is very likely they will finish it in a couple years -not the near decade that it has taken UA to do its cabin refurb projects and much faster than AA allowed its older aircraft to deteriorate before just disposing of them.
Again, if it is at all possible, focus on facts instead of your incessant mud-slinging and outright falsification of reality.
Tim, To remind you of my original comment:
“Delta has long refreshed its cabins including w/ AVOD and WiFi long before other airlines have done, if they are doing it at all.”
Yeah, no. Delta is woefully behind aa on WiFi and even United had satellite wifi before delta
Delta still doesn’t wifi on some mainline planes, at all, still uses Gogo on a large number of the 717s, and still doesn’t have a satellite provider that provides global coverage while United and AA both do.
Facts, tim. Not your hopes and dreams of what you desperately want to be true”
Tim, what you said was not true. No matter how much you try to deflect and rephrase what you said to avoid admitting when you’re wrong (which you clearly can’t do). That’s not what you initially said nor what I replied to. Aside from when Delta had gogo wifi and United had nothing back in ~2013, Delta has never been a leader in onboard wifi offering. If memory serves, Delta followed AA with gogo internet way back in the day but I won’t say I recall that with certainty.
Even now, Delta still has ZERO wifi on some mainline jets, only gogo on most of the 717s, and NO wifi in HUGE parts of their global network due to provider choices. AA and UA both have satellite wifi on every plane in every part of the globe. Delta cannot say the same. That does not make them a leader. United will be the new leader as they embark on a starlink upgrade but that may take some time. AA is the leader in wifi offering, though obviously it’s not free. But neither is Delta on much of their fleet (if they have it).
Just admit when you’re wrong and when you lie about your name and move on.
If you don’t lie, you won’t have to spend 6 paragraphs trying to hide that lie or attacking me to redirect the conversation away from your lies. You don’t see to realize how guilty you look when you spend PARAGRAPHS attacking rather than replying to very direct points.
I don’t care where you go or who you are. But don’t lie and attack other users in your typical hypocritical manner. I could care less what your name is but I do care when you attack other users over using clearly Nom de Plumes on here when you do that today and HAVE DONE IT FOR DECADES, to include being banned under several of those names on other websites.
Do what you want, just don’t lie and expect not to get called out for it.
Watching my daddy take on Max is the highlight of my day!
Max, your statitistics based facts will NEVER trump Daddy’s opinion based facts! Why? Cause Daddy is NEVER wrong!
Darker shades on the seats will hide dirt, crumbs and grime better.
Max,
just admit what you cannot say and which is indeed fact.
AA and UA have precisely ZERO aircraft in their fleet that have free high speed WiFi.
ZERO.
You cannot read what was written and argue incessantly about it because you cannot face reality which is that DL most certainly did lead the big 4 in upgrading its cabins including with WiFi and cabin refreshes. This is not the first time.
The hypocrisy and lies are ALL YOURS. You state you don’t care what my real name is but run from website to website trying to argue against what my name is while you use some fake made- up name.
Don’t want people to call you the MAX hypocrite? then quit being hypocritical and focus on real facts – not the cherrypicked reality that you can’t stand to admit exists.
Now get lost. You clearly have made a fool of yourself once again – just as you do every time you picked up a keyboard.
and, Joe, the real issue here is that DL, like every other airline, wants to use materials that are the most comfortable while reducing the cost of maintaining those materials.
Airplane seats get dirty. The fact that DL is comfortable – as other airlines are doing – with going back to cloth-type fabrics is what is really notable.
Color preferences change; go back and look at the interiors of just about airplane 20 years ago and we would all cringe.
Dark colors have advantages in lots of regard. contrast and lighting does as well.
No one will like every other person’s choices.
and let’s also forget that WN is ALSO changing the look of its aircraft; of the big 4, it is AA and UA that have not announced a fleetwide remake of their interiors.
I hope we’ll see Delta change their FA uniforms from that terrible eggplant color that did not go with red and blue scheme. Who’s idea was that!?
Gary, I suggest that your system for comments be required to cut-off, or allow them to move them to move to a private chat, two posters bickering. I count 9 or 10 posts that clearly just MaxPower and Tim Dunn debating.
I prefer Sun Country, Breeze, and for turbulent short range fun, Silver.
All are superior products to what my insufferable father, Tim Dunn, is used to. Did you know he still has his passport book from when he flew Pan-Am? He was the second youngest pilot in Pan-Am history. The youngest pilot in Pan-Am history was Dwight Schrute.
Guess we’re once again changing the topic when you don’t win the original one, huh, tim? The topic isn’t and wasn’t free wifi in your original statement or my reply. But sure, change the topic, as usual, to try to make a new declarative statement.
Enjoy your day. Thanks for reinforcing your hypocrisy about real names. Don’t lie and this won’t be an issue. 😉
You’re way too easy to rile up.
shacker
none of the aviation site operators want to cut off the fake heads incessantly arguing because that is where they get their page views.
In the case of Max, he is completely incapable of admitting that he is wrong, that DL is leading the industry, or letting anyone else say something he doesn’t want to hear.
Every person on the planet except Max understands full well that DL’s high speed free WiFi installation is still in progress -but DL announced it long before any other big 4 airline did. No one esp. me ever said that DL is complete with its WiFi installation and yet Max repeatedly keeps harping on the parts that aren’t finished while refusing to admit that AA, WN and UA have precisely ZERO aircraft with free high speed WiFi while DL is over 2/3 of its fleet – well over 600 aircraft.
and who Max really is is perfectly apparently when he says that he doesn’t care what user name I use after spending the last two days on yet another rant about my name – when he is the one that uses a fake, made-up name.
yes, we wish people like Max would get the help they need but this is the internet after all.
I am far more interested in seeing Gary address UA’s stock buybacks -which he expected would come and indeed will happen.
While he is at it, he can note that UA did not outperform DL in the 3rd quarter even though DL had both the CrowdStrike issue and the Paris Olympics which combined cost it a half billion in revenue.
And UA has yet to settle with its FAs even though AA has which is more than ticking off UA employees esp. in light of the stock buybacks.
Scott Kirby has done nothing but lay out one lofty strategy after another- none of which have come to pass esp. on originally stated timelines.
Now he is showing his true self by screwing over UA employees while goosing the stock price for the benefit of execs. Kirby learned well from Doug Parker.
and DL will still do a soft refresh of its cabins and very likely get it done well before UA finishes either Next or fleetwide high speed free WiFi
and AA will continue to fly just above the toilet bowl… what a grand industry we all choose to follow…
and the DCA beyond perimeter route awards are out, Gary
Don’t post when you’re drunk, “tim”
Your spelling is atrocious
Your logic and reading comprehension is actually about the same kindergarten level though
But again
Good for you trying to change the topic to a new one that wasn’t discussed and back off your original claim without admitting you’re wrong
It’s on brand for you,
It is amusing how you want moderators to cut off comments when you know you’re wrong
Also amusing that most site operators actively talk about banning you alone. No one else because you don’t know how to shut up when you’re wrong and proven wrong.
But your last reply was a nice step in admitting your original statement about delta and WiFi was dead wrong. Well done. That’s progress for you.
Do you have ideas yet for your next fake username you’ll use?
you aren’t smart enough to walk away.
Any semi-rational person would have walked away when you finally admitted that you really don’t care what user name I use when you have spent days on end trying to argue that I am using some made-up name – when it is YOU that does that.
You are the MAX liar and hypocrite but you get your panties all wound up when someone tells you that – because you don’t have the self-awareness to realize how screwed up you are.
Everyone wants a sane discussion forum – but when you are hellbent on trying to do all you can to denigrate other people that you don’t like, manipulating reality that you don’t like, you AND ONLY YOU will end up as the loser.
walk away, look yourself in the mirror and know that we all see you for the insecure fraud that has to be the center of attention that you are.
Focus on the topic and learn to tolerate other people and we’ll all get along.
the topic here is DL’s soft cabin refresh – which once again will get done long before a long list of projects that UA has said they would do but are now ditching to buy back stock even as they ignore their FAs – despite Kirby telling them he would settle with them when every other big 4 airline settles with the FAs.
You are just like Scott Kirby – full of hot air and lies.
I said all along that UA FAs should have been doing what AA FAs did and they were being sheeple for rolling over.
As for cabins, AA just gives up maintaining the cabins of its aircraft about 10 years before retiring an aircraft.
Like everything else, I have accurately stated reality which you don’t want to hear.
including and esp. about you.
lol
What a stupid response. Your insults really are amusing and tragic. But I do get such a good laugh seeing you riled up and unable to even respond to the simplest data based responses to your claims.
Nope, delta still isn’t a leader on WiFi availability or offerings for the last 15 years.
Again, “tim”
Feel free to prove your name. It’s notable you haven’t once said tim is your real name and you’re clearly scared to prove it but you’ve used how many other fake names in your past? Hardly a surprise. And you’re right, I don’t care about your real name. I care that you attack other users for “fake names” when you use one today and have used many Others for decades.
MaxPower isn’t my name. Happy to say it. I’ve never said it is
“ Everyone wants a sane discussion forum”
They do. And you’re the one actually banned on many of them or openly considered banned to create that sanity. Not me
Grow up
“ You are just like Scott Kirby – full of hot air and lies.”
If only. I’d be crazy rich for being so smart if I was just like him. I guess you two share something in common, fired from an airline. But he seems to have done better after that than you. I don’t see him trolling every comment section desperate for relevance. Just you.
Such a compliment. Thanks
Your responses are so childish
Put the cosmos down. You’re drunk and rambling
Night night
But it still doesn’t remove the leftover stench of the diarrhea that soiled the planes.
Thanks, Diarrhea Delta!
you’re sick, Max,
you say in one post you don’t care what name I post under and then return to your same psychotic rant about my user name while you use some made-up name that in reality just means MAX liar and hypocrite.
yes, Delta has more aircraft with high speed WiFi than any other airline on earth. Yes, that makes them a leader. Thanks for letting me prove that point over and over to the rational people that do read this site.
Kirby wasn’t fired and neither was I… but you prove you invent your reality which we all know. He is returning to exactly what Parker was – disdain for employees while lining his own pocket.
as usual, you parrot and distort what I say…. you have killed all your brain cells if there was any intelligence in any of them to begin with
“You say in one post you don’t care what name I post under and then return to your same psychotic rant about my user name”
You’re right. I don’t care about your real name, at all. You don’t seem able to comprehend the point of your hypocrisy and then throw the term around loosely. No. MaxPower isn’t my name. But I don’t claim it is. I care when you viciously attack others for what you do yourself. That you have used fake usernames over and over and over. On airliners.net where you’re banned for trying over and over to get back on under various names. And Tim Dunn (which you still haven’t denied). But again. I care when you lie about your real name and go off on others for usernames that you use today and have for decades. But again, feel free to prove your name. It’s easy to send a copy of your driver’s license to Gary. 😉 It’s pretty easy to prove it’s your real name. If it is, what exactly are you afraid of? We already know your real name if it is. But it isn’t and you just constantly lie about it and attack others for having a username. It’s so stupid that you even bother to go down this line of attack, but you do.
How’s the hangover? For your sake, I hope you were drinking. You couldn’t spell and couldn’t even mentally comprehend other positions last night.
“Delta has more aircraft with high speed WiFi than any other airline on earth. ”
And no. They don’t. At the last 10-k, Delta had 958 planes. The 717 wifi installation is not complete nor are the A350s without wifi and all that ignores the entire wide body fleet outfitted with satellite wifi that does not work anywhere in the Pacific Ocean, most of Latin America, or Africa. Delta does have more planes than at their last 10-k, but that doesn’t change how many of their current mainline fleet don’t have wifi, at all, or don’t have working wifi. You’ll have this talking point soon enough, but there’s no reason to lie about it today when it will likely be true mid 2025 or late 2025.
AA had 965 mainline planes all with high speed wifi that works globally (though, i’m not you. the A321NEO viasat doesn’t work to Hawaii just like it doesn’t on Delta)’
Nice try, cupcake. Come back when you know something.
Aren’t you tired of being wrong yet? My god. You post when you’re drunk last night. You wake up and go after others and now you’re trying to say you weren’t fired from Delta? Sorry pal. Your history is well-documented from your time on airliners.net before you were banned. But again, there’s an easy fix for all this. Feel free to point everyone to your linkedin profile with your real name “Tim Dunn” and your work profile. I’m sure it’s there and real 😉
The web of lies you tell… No wonder you get so angry. It must be so difficult keeping your lies straight in your mind after telling so many for decades.
yes, you are sick.
you swing from one side of an argument to another.
One minute you care what user name I use and the next you don’t. You’re confused and just want to argue.
AA operates precisely ZERO aircraft that offer free WiFi for anyone which is the model that B6 and DL use and UA will use. I get tired of having to add all of the qualifiers but AA and UA are not free. UA is trying to get there.
You incessant harp on what DL has not YET accomplished because you don’t want to admit what AA won’t do and what UA will do – years after it says it will finish the project – and it hasn’t even put a “completed” target date – which means it is nowhere near.
mental illness is treatable but you clearly don’t want to be treated because it would take away your roll as the troll and nemesis that pathologically argues reality which everyone else except you sees and accepts.
None of which changes that AA doesn’t do system cabin upgrades because they just quit maintaining older aircraft before retiring them and UA announces lofty plans which take years longer to complete – while buying back stock and backtracking on its word to settle w/ its FAs when all other big 4 airlines have settled.
Hey, Scott, UA is the last of the big 4 to settle w/ its FAs and they want some of these huge earnings which you love to tout and which fuel the cash stash which is big enough to buy back stock.
I said all along that UA FAs were fools for trusting Kirby and co. and he is proving me right once again
“One minute you care what user name I use and the next you don’t. You’re confused and just want to argue.”
no one cares whether you use a fake user name that isn’t your real name. They care when you attack others for doing so when you do so yourself and, even if Tim Dunn is your real name (which it isn’t and you haven’t even attempted to say it is in all this, you’ve just attacked me for stating that it isn’t), you’re quite well aware of your extensive use of fake names in the past to get around airliners.net bans. That is called hypocrisy. Are you really this dense that this has to be explained to you over and over again? I guess so. Bad on me for talking/replying to a brick wall that can’t read.
Though informing you of the meaning of the word, hypocrisy, sure does cause you to just fall apart mentally, that’s for sure.
“mental illness is treatable but you clearly don’t want to be treated because it would take away your roll as the troll and nemesis that pathologically argues reality which everyone else except you sees and accepts.”
Lol. The complete lack of self awareness it must take to even type something like this when it’s literally EVERYONE’s view of you…. lol. no wonder you’re the one banned on websites.
No one is harping on what Delta hasn’t accomplished. I reply with facts about what Delta actually has accomplished vs your grandiose fake version of what they have yet to accomplish, like high speed wifi across their fleet and network (aka. not close to that while AA is done with it and has been done with it for years). Delta has not been a leader in Wifi offerings. When have they? You got furious about me correcting you on your initial point and never even had the ability to reply factually when Delta has ever been a leader in wifi? Delta still uses GoGo on some planes. lol. AA hasn’t had that on their mainline planes since… the MD80 retired? Maybe some A320s still had it post the MD80 but it hasn’t been on AA mainline planes in years… Delta has free wifi on some of their planes although saying it’s “Free” is a bit like saying google is free to use, when it isn’t. And Delta followed JetBlue with “free” wifi.
My mental state and acuity is fine. I haven’t been fired by an airline I like or love because I don’t like or love a company and I haven’t been fired… it’s a company, not my belief system or who I am, unlike you.
I guess we’re now talking about United Flight Attendants and Scott Kirby again? lol. You never fail to attempt misdirection and conversation changes when you can’t win an argument. You really should know your own tells 😉
Dude. come back to reality. It’s a lovely place. No one cares what your real name is. But you don’t need to be viciously attacking others for usernames when you use one today and have for decades on other sites where you’re banned or, frankly, to reply to yourself in the comment sections.
we’re both just repeating the same things now and your insults get stranger and stranger with less thought put into them.
But i’ll be sure to check my mental wellness, thanks 😉 Enjoy your final 15 paragraph response.
Yours Forever,
Maxie
honestly, I am not interested in a forever relationship… don’t even want the number of interactions we do have…
I do enjoy rational interactions with those capable of doing the same.
I do hope you are back here when Gary provides a cabin refresh product thread…