This past Monday a Hagerstown, Maryland woman flying home on Allegiant Air flight 2884 wound up in police custody at Orlando Sanford Airport after giving a 12 year old passenger a beat down. The boy had taunted the 46-year-old woman, calling her “fat” and “Miss Piggy” and saying she couldn’t fit in her seat.
The two were seatmates. The boy pushed her arm off the shared armrest between them and she “started smacking him.” According to other passengers, she hit him with a clenched fist, clubbed him with a plastic water bottle, and then slammed his head against the window. One witness called it “whipping the s— out of the kid.”
The captain radioed ahead for law enforcement, taxied the jet back, and the woman and her traveling companions voluntarily deplaned before the flight pushed back again nearly two hours late. Airport police intercepted them “walking away from the gate.”
Kristy Lee Crampton was booked on one count of child cruelty by abuse without great bodily harm (a felony). She spent the night in Seminole County Jail, appeared before a judge on Tuesday and posted a $10,000 bond. The arrest report notes no drugs or alcohol and confirms the FBI was notified.
The police report suggests that everyone in the row on the aircraft was part of the same group that had just wrapped up a Disney World trip. This suggests the child taunting Crampton may have been a relative.
Free speech. First Amendment. People can say anything. You can’t respond physically. That’s the United States of America.
You know what’s funny. If this fat woman channeled her physical energy into a gym routine, she wouldn’t be fat.
I hate passengers who can’t fit in their seat. I ask flight attendants to remove those passengers from the aircraft on the basis of a safety risk.
Relatives? Thanksgiving could be uncomfortable. An overreaction but the kid’s parents didn’t control him either. Maybe he learned something about the limits of bad behavior.
A 12-year-old kid calling others fat obviously hasn’t been well bred. There’s no surprise if his parents can only afford Allegiant.
If you are poor, do not bring kids into the world. Kids deserve to be well bred, which is expensive. Kids need to be shielded from ill-bred kids of poor parents. To do this you’ll need to send your kids to $100,000/year private school. Don’t have that kind of money? Don’t have kids.
She reacted badly, but the kid hopefully learned a lesson too.
Kirk, you need to die of cancer. Advocacy or defense of physical violence is unacceptable in any civil society.
Interesting about how this is being twisted to be about Allegiant, the socioeconomic status of people and body habitus.
This stuff happens on every airline and it’s not just lower income folks (and we have no proof this woman was poor, she happened to be flying non-stop to HGR which is only served by Allegiant). I have seen plenty of people of means behaving badly on airplanes.
So many people with disdain for the working class, immigrants and those who haven’t had the same opportunities in life. So unamerican. So unchristian. So pathetic. But, maybe that’s what folks are taught in those $100K private schools.
@Parker, my disdain for the working class is limited to the white working class, and even then, I’ll lay off the brutal insults if the white person manages to come off as polite. A rude yet poor white person becomes the subject of my scorn due to white privilege. Everybody knows whites with a modicum of a work ethic don’t become poor. Whites with a great work ethic make partner/managing director at elite professional services firms. Being white but working class in most cases means you were thoroughly lazy. That’s the least respectable thing you can be.
The regulators should require aircraft manufacturers to perform the emergency evac qualification tests with participants that are accurate representation of the population that will actually fly on those aircraft.
Great Headline
I haven’t laughed this hard reading a story about poor behavior on.an airplane for years.
Kermit and Miss Piggy acting like an old married couple. Nothing to see here. Next.
The boy started the physical altercation and learned about FAFO. He should have been charged, too. His comments indicate that he was not raised right by his parents or who ever was raising him.
Un:
“ Kirk, you need to die of cancer. Advocacy or defense of physical violence is unacceptable in any civil society.”
What an oxymoronic statement from a moron. You can look that word up as I’m sure you don’t know what it means judging by your education level. Wishing someone to die of cancer while pretending to be an advocate for nonviolence is a little on the cray cray side.
@1990 — I’m assuming you’re the 6’6″ one, not myself (in NYC). That said, you took the words right outta my mouth. In fact, you may have said it even better than I would have (more succinct). Kudos! You’re more ‘1990’ than actual ‘1990’! It’s like a 1990-Inception. (‘We need to go deeper!’)
I hope Un, who commented ,and the apparent relatives in this post get the help that they need.
@Un – as a liberal mixed-race individual I will offer that your comments are out of line and stink of racism. Yes, even “non-white” folks can be and are racist…and that’s tragic given what we have experienced. You strike me as a very angry person who has probably gone through a lot of things you should have never had to experience…but that does not give you the right to use racist language or to advocate for the death of another poster anymore than this passenger had to lay hands on someone else’s kid.
I hope you get the help you need.
Un: Your ignorance is exceeded by your racism. Good luck in life lad
I came to leave a disparaging remark for the hideous AI-generate image that was shown in the boardingarea.com thumbnail. I don’t see it at all on this actual article page.
AI-generated images are all hideous and immediately obvious, anyway.
The correct step would have been to pitch both out of the plane with parachutes. 2 at least for the lady. Flotation cushion for the kid if they’re over water (the lady would likely float on herr own)
He’s lucky she didn’t eat him.
@al she should have just sat on him
At 12 if I did that my parents would have just poked at me and I knew I would have been in trouble. But ten again as12 I would never have been stupid enough to even though about saying it.
The kid is the next generation of missing persons
I ever saw her doing that to that kid while I’m in the flight, regardless whether he’s mines or not, I’ll kick her ash myself. I don’t care if I go to jail or not. You don’t touch someone else’s kid whether he/she’s rude the the passenger next to them.
Piss off Ramses.
That kid is almost as big as a white trash twat as you are
Most everyone here misses the elephant in the room – if the woman would have fit into her seat there would have been no conflict. Overly large people are a bane to average sized people. They alone are responsible for their size, no matter the reason or excuse. Airline seating is not constructed to conform to overly large people – it is a fact. Before airlines decided to shrink the size of seats in order for more profits, seats were large enough – and comfortable – for the overly large. Now today, average sized humans suffer from these people infringing upon their paid for seating space – and the one(s) who suffer from this infringement are expected to suffer in silence. I look forward to the day that airline tickets are priced according to weight – the more you weigh, the more you pay. Now the overly large will cry discrimination- while in reality the average sized person is the one who actually suffers. Secondly – Un – whoever you are – you are disgusting, a racist and most assuredly a liberal DemocRat.
In some parts of the country, at one point that kid coulda been her husband. Or cousin. Or both.
Hagerstown is still Appalachia, right?
David R. Miller: I don’t think we are missing the point but rather we accept it. In 1960’s and 70’s the average American adult male weighed somewhere around 166-170 pounds. Adult women were about 25-30 pounds less. By Y2K the average American male weighed close to 200 pounds. The current Boeing aircraft have the same seat width (17.1″) in economy/coach as they did on the Boeing 707/720 in 1970.
And I agree, Un is going to have a lot of explaining to do
Where. Were. The Parents?
Sounds like this was not a sudden incident. Where were the parents?
@David R. Miller
You sound like that entitled 12 year old twat who thinks it’s okay to openly insult others with zero consequences. Sounds like he’s being raised to be a disrespectful twat by adults who are equally disrespectful and who vote (and make their entire personalities) conservative.
Some individuals just need physically corrected.
@haolenate – Hagerstown is “Appalachia-adjacent.” It’s very close to Appalachia but has also become an exurb of DC-Baltimore (like nearby Morgantown, WV and Winchester, VA). Still more county than city but most people there are accustomed to heading to DC or Baltimore (suburbs) with some routine. If HGR weren’t so close to IAD, DCA and BWI there would be legacy carriers serving the market. There are about 400K people within a 30-minute drive of HGR.
Ok…. I’ve seen alegiant seats. One of those wimpy plastic seats actually supported that much weight
“Advocacy or defense of physical violence is unacceptable in any civil society.”
Unacceptable doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. She should absolutely be held accountable for her actions, but this would be a good chance for the kid to learn:
1. There is a difference between an ideal society and reality.
2. Your actions have consequences that, when other people are involved, may be far more serious than you anticipate.
Again, being an ass doesn’t excuse violence, but if you want to live in reality rather than ignore it, then you’ve gotta expect it from some people.
@One Trippe — Yay! I’m a Y2K average American male! Bah!
They are both massive aunts.
Will the “Maryland woman” be paired up with the “Maryland man” and shipped off to El Salvador?
As someone commented in a Spirit video on Youtube in which a passenger had to be led away in cuffs Low Cost Airline=Low Morals Customer.
Gee a thread where the resident idiot wishes someone they disagree with death and rants about not expected success from non-whites. How unusual.
The cruelty in some of these comments is staggering. I’m appalled at this kid’s behavior – what 12 year old says things like that to an adult? The utter lack of disrespect and the outright cruelty of what he said – where did he learn that?? Where were the parents of this child??
Obviously the woman was way out of line – words do hurt, but that’s no excuse for her over-the-top response.
One thing I find myself questioning: Exactly what was her arm doing when this started?
Because I have a sneaky suspicion the real thing was not him pushing her arm off the armrest, but that it went beyond the armrest into his space. That would make his use of force appropriate. And I have a very hard time having a problem with words in any situation that has crossed the line into even minor force being warranted.
《I ever saw her doing that to that kid while I’m in the flight, regardless whether he’s mines or not, I’ll kick her ash myself.》 Because you got appointed judge, jury, and executioner? Attempting to break up such a fight is noble. Causing injury to the person you believe to be at fault is low-class behavior.
I’d opt for a jury trial. No way this will end in a conviction.
It sounds like she was in the middle seat and he was in the window seat. Per previous advocacy on this blog, she was within her rights to have both armrests.
Sounds like a real empathetic group, did this happen in Russia or the United States?
Kid learned FAFO. Boo-hoo.
Lady was violent and broke the law.
But all of that aside: the fat-shaming, the socioeconomic shaming that are 90% of the comments.
I’m a million-miler with plenty of flying under my belt, but don’t hang out here much. But it seems like a real garbage-human demographic that hangs out here…