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American Express, Chase, and Capital One have all made changes to their premium rewards cards recently. And Citi has just introduced their competitor in the space. Which one is now the best, and most importantly which one is best for you?
The four contenders:
- Chase Sapphire Reserve® $795 annual fee (See rates and fees)
- Capital One Venture X $395 annual fee.
- American Express Platinum Card® $895 annual fee (see rates and fees).
- Citi Strata EliteSM Card $595 annual fee
How To Evaluate Rewards Card Value
There are (3) things that a card will generally do for you, beyond serving basic payments (and, for some, financing).
- Initial bonus: a card might offer 75,000 points or 100,000 points and that’s valuable. It makes a card focal. You pay attention, decide to try out the card. But the bonus itself isn’t a reason to keep the card, let alone use it.
- Benefits: airline cards often come with free checked bags and earlier boarding (so you avoid being forced to gate check your bags), a card may offer companion airfare or lounge access. These can be reasons to get a card but are not themselves a reason to spend regularly on that card.
- Return on spending: whether your ongoing spending earns the most points in a valuable currency that advances your rewards goals – once you’re past earning the card’s bonus, this is the reason to spend on the card. Note that ‘return on spending’ with a hotel or airline card might be in the form of progress towards elite status.
How Each Card Delivers Value
With each of these cards there are currently significant bonus offers. They all earn valuable (transferable) points. But they earn them at different rates. And they each have benefits that will align with different customers.
- Chase Sapphire Reserve® 125,000 bonus points after you spend $6,000 on purchases in the first 3 months from account opening.
Earns 8x on all travel booked through Chase’s portal (even air); 4x on flights and hotels booked directly; 3x on dining worldwide.
Benefits include $300 travel credit; $300 credit at Sapphire Reserve Exclusive Tables restaurants (2x$150 semi-annually); $300 Stubhub and viaigogo credit (2x$150 semi-annually); complimentary AppleTV+ and Apple Music; $10 per month credit with Lyft; $5 per month DoorDash restaurant credit and $10 twice per month for groceries plus DashPass membership; up to $500 per year credit on prepaid hotels with The Edit (2x$250). There’s also IHG One Rewards Platinum status.
- Capital One Venture X 75,000 bonus miles after spending $4,000 in the first three months.
Earns 10X on hotels and rental cars and 5x on flights and vacation rentals booked through Capital One Travel and 2x transferable points on all other purchases.
Benefits include a $300 Capital One travel credit each cardmember year and 10,000 bonus points on card renewal. Those two together more than cover the card’s annual fee in my view.
- Platinum Card® from American Express as high as 175,000 Membership Rewards points after $8,000 spend in your first 6 months of cardmembership.
The key earn category here is 5x on airfare purchased directly from airlines. Most spend earns just 1 Membership Reward point per dollar.
Benefits include $200 Uber credit + $120 Uber One subscription credit; $300 digital entertainment credit; $600 credit for Amex Fine Hotels & Resorts and Hotel Collection properties as 2x$300 semi-annually with Hotel Collection requiring 2+ nights; CLEAR credit; $200 airline fee credit with one selected airline; $300 lululemon credit (4x$75 quarterly); $100 Saks credit (2x$50 semi-annually); Walmart+ credit; $200 Oura credit; $300 Equinox credit [many of these benefits require enrollment, and terms apply to each.] This list feels like it goes on and one. And there’s also Hilton and Marriott Gold status as well as car rental status.
- Citi Strata Elite Card 80,000 bonus points after spending $4,000 in the first 3 months. (Offer expired.)
Earns 12x on hotel, car rentals and attractions and 6x on air travel booked through CitiTravel.com ; 6x at restaurants Firday and Saturday 6 pm – 6am Eastern and 3x at other times; and 1.5x transferable points on all other purchsaes.
Benefits include four American Airlines Admirals Club passes each year; $300 hotel benefit for 2+ night stays booked through Citi Travel; the $200 Splurge credit (take it for American Airlines travel!); and $100 in Blacklane credits twice each year.
Bottom-Line For Each Card
Each of these cards offers strong benefits and a strong up front bonus. Three of the four offer good return on spending.
What’s going to separate out the one that’s right for you is probably going to be the lounge access that best matches your travel. Each one offers a Priority Pass card, but the truth is that the branded lounges are much nicer.
If you fly out of an airport where one card offers a branded lounge, and the others don’t, that’s probably a differentiator. If your travels match one lounge network better than another that’s going to push you in a clear direction.
Here’s the bottom-line take on each card:
- American Express Platinum Card® gets you the biggest lounge network and credits that most outweighh the card’s cost. However, outside of airline tickets purchased directly from airlines (and to take advantage of the card’s credits), this isn’t a card that makes sense for your spending. This card is all about the benefits, worth keeping as a great tool, but not one that should be a regular go-to for spending.
- Chase Sapphire Reserve has a lot of credits that make the annual fee worthwhile, and is great for spending on airfare and hotels as well as at restaurants. Sapphire lounges are often nicer than Centurion lounges, though there aren’t as many of them.
- Capital One Venture X Capital One has the smallest network of their own lounges, but their lounges are the best overall. The card is the best value product with the lowest price – by a lot – at just $395. There aren’t a lot of hoops to jump through to get value out of the card. And it’s the best for everyday spending.
- Citi Strata EliteSM Card doesn’t have its own lounge network, but offers 4 American Airlines Admirals Club passes per year. This card has great statement credits based on calendar year ($200 credi that can be used at American Airlines, Best Buy and others; $300 hotel credit for 2+ night bookings through Citi Travel; $200 Blacklane credit that’s $100 semi-annually) which are set up on a calendar year meaning your first year cardmember value is huge.
How Bank Lounges Stack Up
Here are the current and announced networks of Chase, American Express and Capital One lounges. The number and locations of these lounges will often be what determines which one is best for you – based on where you live and where you fly (to and through).
Airport | American Express | Capital One | Chase | |||
Domestic | ||||||
Atlanta | ✓ | |||||
Boston | ✓ (Upcoming) | ✓ | ||||
Charlotte | ✓ | |||||
Dallas – Fort Worth | ✓ | ✓ | ✓ (Upcoming) | |||
Denver | ✓ | ✓ | ||||
Houston – IAH | ✓ | |||||
Las Vegas | ✓ | ✓ | ✓ (Upcoming) | |||
Los Angeles | ✓ | ✓ (Upcoming) | ||||
Miami | ✓ | |||||
New York JFK | ✓ | ✓ | ✓ | |||
New York LaGuardia | ✓ | ✓ (Upcoming) | ✓ | |||
Newark | ✓ (Upcoming) | |||||
Philadelphia | ✓ | ✓ | ||||
Phoenix | ✓ | ✓ | ||||
Salt Lake City | ✓ (Upcoming) | |||||
San Diego | ✓ | |||||
San Francisco | ✓ | |||||
Seattle | ✓ | |||||
Washington DCA | ✓ | ✓ | ||||
Washington Dulles | ✓ | ✓ | ||||
Airport | American Express | Capital One | Chase | |||
International | ||||||
Buenos Aires EZE | ✓ | |||||
Delhi | ✓ | |||||
Hong Kong | ✓ | ✓ | ||||
London Heathrow | ✓ | |||||
Melbourne | ✓ | |||||
Mexico City | ✓ | |||||
Monterrey | ✓ | |||||
Mumbai | ✓ | |||||
Stockholm | ✓ | |||||
Sydney | ✓ | |||||
Tokyo Haneda | ✓ |
American Express just has more lounges than the others, and that’s without adding in their ‘Centurion Studio’ partnership with Escape Lounges.
However, if I were based in Denver, Las Vegas or New York JFK (flying out of terminal 4 – all 3 JFK bank lounges are in terminal 4) I’d choose Capital One because I like those lounges better.
At Washington Dulles I’d choose Capital One over Chase (where its Etihad-partnered lounge is lovely but small).
Chase Sapphire Lounge Washington Dulles
In Philadelphia I’d choose Chase over American Express, because the Chase lounge there is fantastic and the Philadelphia lounge is arguably Amex’s weakest.
At Washington National it’s a no-brainer to pick Capital One because the ‘Landing’ restaurant they have there is genuinely fantastic – food I’d gladly eat in a restaurant outside the airport, in contrast to the mediocre buffet you’ll get at the other end of the terminal.
Capital One Landing DCA
Capital One Landing DCA
Capital One Landing DCA
The basic rule, I think, is that where Amex has a lounge and others don’t, Amex wins. Where others have a lounge also, the Chase or Capital One offering is probably better. That may not hold in Phoenix because the Chase space is just so small there.
And of course, American Express hasn’t opened yet in Boston! And their new ‘Sidecar’ concept launching next year could turn the tables a bit in places like Las Vegas, where they seem to be copying Capital One’s dining-focused offering.
Spend Bonuses And Transfer Partners Matter, Too
Now, I’d add a couple more wrinkles. Each of these cards offers great points transfer options. With Capital One, American Express and Chase I love transferring to Air Canada for Star Alliance flights. All four transfer to Singapore Airlines for Singapore’s own premium cabin flights. All four have an option to transfer to Avios. And all four transfer to Air France KLM which has the best program in SkyTeam and frequently offers reasonably-priced business class awards between the U.S. and Europe. They all transfer to Virgin which is good for ANA business and first class redemptions.
But there are also differences. Chase lets you redeem points at up to two cents apiece for The Edit hotels and other Points Boost hotels and airlines. I see lots of business class flight options on United at 2 cents apiece. And Edit hotel bookings earn elite status credits and points and receive elite benefits, on top of additional credit, breakfast and upgrade benefits.
Chase has Hyatt and United as transfer partners. Citibank has American as a transfer partner. Those differentiate their currencies. (Amex partners with Delta, which differentiates them negatively.)
And Chase is the only one that really bonuses heavy spend. $75,000 spend in a calendar year earns IHG One Rewards DIaomnd status; Southwest Airlines Rapid Rewards A-List Status; $500 Southwest credit on bookings made via Chase Travel; $250 Shops at Chase credit to spend on brands including Baccarat, Bang & Olufsen, Breitling, Callaway, CALPAK, Cuisinart, Dyson, Samsonite, SMEG, Solo Stove, SONY, Therabody, Tory Burch, and TUMI.
My pre-existing Chase card doesn’t get the new benefits besides Points Boost until late October. I keep kicking myself for not calling and asking for the benefits (and current annual fee) now to take advantage of these – because I’ve actually already hit the $75,000 spend on the card for 2025.
My Premium Card Strategy: How I Use All Four Of These Cards
I actually have all of them. You probably should not do that, but they work for me. Here’s how I think about the value of each one differently.
- American Express Platinum Card® has been my card for airfare spend, though I’m tempted to book air itineraries through Chase’s portal to earn 8x with their card now. I keep this card primarily for its Centurion and Delta lounge access, and I get Hilton Gold status. And it way, way more than pays for itself with all of its new credits.
American Express Centurion Lounge New York JFK - Chase Sapphire Reserve is super strong with 4x on direct-booked air and hotel, which to me obviates the need to spend on another hotel card (unless you’re spending for credit towards Hyatt status). And it’s the best of these products for non-weekend dining.
I can do enough of this spend to earn the card’s $75,000 perks, covering me for the occasional IHG stay and for Southwest Airlines travel (Southwest is 41% of the seats out of my home airport).
I love The Edit’s credits that stack with points payment at 2 cents apiece and status-earning, and I use the points for Hyatt redemptions. Their New York LaGuardia, Philadelphia, San Diego and Boston lounges are really good.
Chase Sapphire Lounge Philadelphia
Chase Sapphire Lounge New York LaGuardia
Chase Sapphire Lounge New York LaGuardia - Capital One Venture X gets me into my two favorite bank lounges – the Capital One lounge at New York JFK with its cheese counter tastings and its fresh Ess-a-Bagels with pastrami, with lox, and even with smoked whitefish, and the Capital One Landing at Washington’s National airport with José Andrés tapas. And I use it for spending that doesn’t earn at least 2 points per dollar on other cards.
Capital One JFK Lounge Cheese Counter
Capital One Landing DCA
Caviar dolloped on top of labneh cream cheese cones, Capital One Landing DCA - Citi Strata EliteSM Card is brand new. It made a ton of sense to get with the current initial bonus offer, plus all of the calendar year credits which are available twice during the first cardmember year (use before the end of 2025 and again in early 2026).
That means my first cardmember year I’ll get $400 to spend with American Airlines; $600 to spend on hotels via CitiTravel.com; and $200 to spend on Blacklane. That’s $1,200 in credits plus the 80,000 point bonus I’ve already earned. Meanwhile, I’m using the card for all of my weekend dining at 6x.
I don’t need the American Airlines lounge passes – I have the Citi Executive AAdvantage Card’s club membership for access.
American Airlines Admirals Club, Washington National Airport E Concourse
American Airlines Admirals Club, Philadelphia
Most people should not get all of these cards! First, most won’t visit all of the lounges. You’d need to ask yourself if you travel that much. Second, taking advantage of all the benefits can become a full-time job. It’s enough just to maximize the credits from the American Express Platinum Card® or Sapphire Reserve, but to layer in both and the other cards too and ensure they don’t slip through the cracks – worried you won’t get full value from the product – well, that’s just too much for most.
And so you should decide which one (or two?) best align with your lifestyle. The best rubric, I think, is to start with the lounges you’ll enjoy and actually use – and then to check it against being sure you’ll use the card’s credits so that it’s positive-sum against the annual fee.
For rates and fees of Platinum Card® from American Express, click here.
So far, Amex is winning. ‘Prove me wrong.’ (RIP)
Gary:
A very helpful article. The landscape for premium cards is changing by the day.
Right now, my partner and I are firmly in the SkyTeam and Star Alliance camps. My partner has threatened to leave me if I book AA again if there is a choice (6 absolutely awful experiences in a row). Btw, 6 “over the pond” trips in the next 3 months — all on SkyTeam. So the card of choice is Amex Plat, despite the $200 increase (which I won’t feel for 11 months) especially since I have a lifetime UA lounge pass.
But I was somewhat surprised that you didn’t include Bilt in your review. The card is fantastic. It’s usually my “first out of the wallet” for dining and for non-bonused spend. Bilt transfers to Hyatt 1:1, and I have a 6 day conference at a Hyatt next March. (Yes – I have a Hyatt WOH card. Which is better to accumulate the Hyatt points I need?)
@Retired Lawyer — Went through a phase of that myself, except the threat was over United, not American, ironically.
And, 2 is a coincidence, 3 is a pattern, 6 is… an atrocity. Sorry to hear. Yikes.
As for BILT, we’re kinda all ‘in a holding pattern’ until this 2.0 thing come February 2026, the transition from WF to Cardless (uh oh), so the ‘good times’ could be over soon with that card… or, it’ll be the dawn of a new era, with the launch of their supposed new ‘premium’ card.
Thanks, Gary.
For years we’ve been using the Chase Sapphire Reserve card for its travel protection coverage, which is particularly helpful for saving us the otherwise 10% trip insurance premium when booking cruises. So we save thousands per year using just this benefit. Once it reimbursed us for a doctor’s visit to our hotel suite for treatment of food poisoning. Another time it reimbursed both of us for a few days missed on a land tour because one of us caught a bug and couldn’t travel. It covered both the lodging and pro rata reimbursement for the missed days. How do the other premium cards compare?
This is simply excellent. Thank you for the analysis and especially the chart.
I agree with @InLA that a chart comparing travel insurance coverages would also be helpful, especially for Citi Elite because those benefits do not seem to be published publicly?
@RL – Bilt is many things but it is not a “premium / lounge” card. Just feels like a different post comparing best points cards or best points ecosystems.
Great stuff lately, thanks again! If you do end up calling Chase, may as well ask for a retention bonus along with the new credits/benefits, would be interesting to hear what they will do when asked. Probably a good time to do it post-Amex’s announcement…
Thanks for the putting this together, Gary! Exciting time for cards.
This is great Gary, thanks.
Are you aware of whether anyone has created a way (eg, spreadsheet) to keep up with the benefits for these cards?
@Michael — I mean, don’t we all? There may be proprietary software or apps designed for that specific purpose, but they’re probably paid. Just make your own. Like, I have a spreadsheet, and notes on my phone, to track what I have, when to use it, etc. You can also make calendar entries, send email reminders for important things, etc.
Scam. Prove me wrong.
“where Amex has a lounge”
…they have a 45 minute line.
Coupon books and luxuriously waiting in line at an airport. And even when you get in then it’s a zoo. So premium. I’m down to only the VX. Plats and CSR have jumped the coupon shark, just not worth the hassle for a marginal theoretical ROI on stuff you wouldn’t ever otherwise buy. Even when just chasing SUBs, the best ROI is the ~$100AF cards.
@Gene – Sure. Amex, Chase and C1 run a network of lounges that you can access upon the payment of annual fees of $895, $795 and $395, respectively. If you would like to access those lounges, you pay that fee. It’s not a scam, it’s a transparent product offering that you can choose to take advantage of or take a pass on.
As part of their product offering, they each offer credits against the annual fee that you can take advantage of, or choose to ignore completely. The only question with each of these cards is whether you would like to access their lounges and, if so, if you feel that the membership fee and credit package is acceptable to you.
If you would like to earn points or cash back on a credit card, in general, there are plenty of other no or low fee credit cards that you should take advantage of, including some excellent combos (Citi Strata Premier/Regular/DoubleCash comes to mind – $95 for the Premier but $0 if you take advantage of a $100 hotel credit, and $0 for Regular and DoubleCash).
If you are interested in a lounge card, some of the credit packages (Amex, C1) are better than others (Chase). Of course, in general, I would not prepay $400 to receive a $400 dining credit that is spread out over a one year period in three month increments. But that is the wrong metric to evaluate whether or not to get the Amex Platinum in the first place. As Gary takes pains to note, question number one is do you travel often enough to value lounge access. If so, paying an annual fee for lounge access might make sense for you! And Gary provides a very helpful chart with the lounge locations so you can make an educated choice or choices about which cards might make sense.
Once you’ve answered that question, then of course it’s completely fair game to evaluate (x) lounge locations, (y) annual fee and (z) credits against annual fee. If you live near C1 lounges, that may be your best option – they are the newest lounges and C1VX has a relatively easy to use $300 travel credit through their portal. If not, or if you value lounge access in the most locations, Amex is the clear winner given (x) the number of locations, (y) the annual fee and (z) the number of credits against the annual fee AND the ease of use of those credits. Chase’s offering is not nearly as compelling given (x) the number of lounge locations, (y) the annual fee (largest increase) and (z) the credits against the annual fee (which are not as compelling and very hard to use as compared with Amex).
As for Citi, for me they are not really relevant to this conversation at all as the Citi Strata Elite is not really a lounge card (4 annual passes tied to a specific airline/oneworld – not compelling as a lounge card at all – and therefore not appearing on Gary’s location chart). It is, however, a premium credit card that costs $595 and that has credits that offset against the annual fee. Other than for a SUB and Year 1 value, I struggle to understand that card as a “keeper” at all (unless it was the only card that unlocked 1:1 AA transfers, but given the Strata Premier exists, it is not). I can therefore potentially understand why that card would be more irksome to you, although it too is not a “scam” and has very clear terms about what you pay and what you get.
Hi! Two questions you say Citi doesn’t really count in the lounge factor because it doesn’t have brand specific lounge access but it does come with priority pass and it seems there are less limitations on access compared to the changes that are upcoming for capital one in the new year. I’m definitely opening the Citi card but having trouble deciding to keep VX. Did your analysis here factor in the upcoming capone changes?
@Mantis – just like the VX that you still have, Amex just launched a new app so you can put yourself on a digital waitlist to avoid waiting in a physical line. Obviously if you do not value going to Amex’s lounges, you don’t have to get their card. The primary ROI on these cards is lounge access, and no one said that you should be entitled to access a lounge for free – there’s a fee and there’s potential credits against that fee that you can use or not use. For points earning – of course get other no or low fee cards.
@Mantis — I suppose the new credits are not working well for you, if you are indeed based in Asia; unless, they got Resy where you are… that said, for those of stateside in major cities, we’re getting outsized value with Amex following these recent updates.
@Sarah – You / P2 can get a $0 US Bank Altitude Connect card and get 4 free priority pass visits a year. You could use one of those visits to go visit a Chase lounge if you’d like, if they are accepting priority pass at the time of your visit. So it’s hard to just say “get the Citi Strata Elite because it comes with PP” but it depends on your usage.
Agree there are different guest policies with the various bank lounges and with the PP offerings by the banks. Something to think about when traveling with the family – if you’re taking 1-2 family vacations a year that’s very different than the monthly trip to visit grandma (in which case you may have a regular route and airline and all of this goes out the window because you want the AA Executive card or the United Club or Delta Reserve or whatever). All depends on your circumstances.
Amex/Chase/Citi PP allows 2 guests free versus C1 where guests are $35 each beginning 2/1/26. You could pay $125 for a C1 AU so they get their own PP or just have P2 get their own VX if you’ll use another $300 travel credit – then it’s only $95. Much cheaper than the Amex/Chase/Citi fees before factoring in credits (and your mileage may vary there as well).
I do agree that the Chase guest policy is still the best (2 guests free, additional guests $27). Depending on your travel patterns that may be a relevant factor in choosing Chase over Amex ($50 guest fee except kids $30; $75k spend unlocks 2 free guests) or C1 ($45 guest except kids $25; $75k spend unlocks 1 guest landing or 2 guests lounge).
Bouncing off @Peter, one additional comment on Cap1 on whether to pay for AU access or try and have P2 get their own card. Regardless, Gary has valued the DCA Landing at potentially $100+ a meal so if you live in NYC or the DMV, $125 for AU access is still an absolute bargain in my eyes. P2 getting their own travel credit is nice too, but either seems to be a fine path.
@L737 — I had not heard of ‘DMV’ used for DC-Maryland-Virginia before. Nice!
@ Peter — The mere fact that it takes 6 long paragraphs just to go through the options proves that these cards a waste of time and effort. We would much rather spend $600 on an airline card that gains us joint access to lounges that we will use most (AA, AS, DL, UA) and provides an easier route to status. We never even consider booking economy, so for any international flight, access is part of the business class/first class ticket. Sure, for a reasonable SUB (one that doesn’t come with a huge 5-digit spending requirement), we’ll bite for the flashy $800-$900 card for ONE YEAR. With the ability to churn with two players, we rarely find ourselves sitting in the terminal due to lack of access, but when we do, it is usually almost as good as a lounge. After all, there is free water, free wifi, free toilet. Unless you are a pig and can’t wait for a meal/snack on the plane, you’ll be just fine. Just say no to these ripoff credit cards.
@Gene – 🙁
@1990 — You’re going to sound so cool in front of your friends next time you talk about the area!
@Gene – so your position is that if something is slightly complicated it is not valuable or worthwhile? That’s just silly.
Yes you can go to a restaurant at an airport and pay $40 for a burger and beer and tax and tip. Or you can go to a lounge. If you visit a lounge 10x a year that’s $400 of value. If you are visiting with P2 that’s $800 of value.
With C1VX you easily get that value for two people. $395 plus $125 AU fee is $520. So you are prepaying $520 for $800 in benefits in that example. Plus if you book $300 of travel with them they give you $300 back. So if you value that it’s $220 for $800 in benefits. How is that not a good deal?
If you don’t fly that often or always fly J and get lounge access and you won’t get enough value to make the card worth it, that’s fine! Get a different card! Everything doesn’t have to be for everybody. But that doesn’t mean it doesn’t have real value for many people. And while the card companies love to promote these things as status symbols (shiny mirrors! Claudia Schiffer on a poster!), you and I surely don’t have to think of them that way.
@L737 — Woop!
@Peter — I’m still with you; sometimes it takes extra effort to play this game right.
Don’t mind @Gene too much. He’s had enough of annual fees, generally, even if there’s outsized value. He’s also had it ‘up to here’ with certain brands, like Marriott. And, he enjoys ‘dunking’ on Delta, especially with its #1 fan, @Tim Dunn. Otherwise, I think he’s more of a United and IHG fan, unless something has changed. I think he means well.
@ Peter — Eating is so 2020. I would be much more excited by a card with a monthly GLP-1 prescription credit.
See! @Gene means well! Who needs to eat… ‘in this economy?!’ Bah!
@ 1990 — I almost never go to a restauarant since GLP-1s. The portions are 3x too big, the sodium is 10x too high, and, don’t get me started on the tipping thing. Ooo, maybe a card with a monthly tipping credit would be nice?
@Gene – all I’ll say is that it sounds like you will love the tapas concept at the new C1 landings with Jose Andres. Small gourmet plates! 🙂
There are also some good copay cards out there! View from the Medical Wing is next door though.
@Gene — How about just order appetizers, or sharing with others? There are still ways to enjoy the tastes, even if smaller quantities. Or, just treat yourself to some fine wine, or spirits, or a cheese plate, caviar, a dessert… or threat your friends and family, business partner, colleagues, client. Just sayin’ you don’t have to do a 6-course meal. Even with GLP-1s. Live a little!
This was one of those rare terrific articles that I will save, thank you very very much.