During the Biden Administration, United Airlines CEO Scott Kirby invested in environmental technologies. He had employees putting their pronounces in emails, and on their name tags. His airline supported affirmative action in California and committed to choosing board members on the basis of race. And they imposed vaccine mandates on employees before the federal government did.
They were the ‘most woke’ airline. They even suspended Twitter ads in protest of Elon Musk and had speech codes.
Now in the Trump administration, after donating a million dollars to the President’s inauguration, Kirby came out in favor of the President’s tariffs.
He appeared with the Vice President to take sides in the government shutdown.
HOLY CRAP! The CEO of United Airlines is now GOING OFF on Chuck Schumer and the Democrats for shuttering the government and refusing to pay air traffic controllers
It's getting worse for Chuck!
"Let's get a CLEAN CR…without putting the American workers and economy at… pic.twitter.com/qjjGKjL0SB
— Eric Daugherty (@EricLDaugh) October 30, 2025
Stephen Miller is the President’s Deputy Chief of Staff. He’s the architect and defender of the President’s most extreme policies on immigration, like family separation. His wife has a podcast. That podcast’s latest guest? Scott Kirby.
NEW: @united CEO Scott Kirby on how long it will take their operations to resume back to full capacity:
"We'll be able to ramp up as quickly as the FAA. The FAA is gonna be the constraint.”
“I was 100% supportive of what they did and I think they did a really good job in a… pic.twitter.com/8pjlc9iKLy
— Katie Miller (@KatieMiller) November 13, 2025
Captain Renault said to Major Strasser in Casablanca, “I have no conviction, if that’s what you mean. I blow with the wind, and the prevailing wind happens to be from Vichy.”
During the Biden administration, Kirby was woke, making everyone use pronouns, promoting affirmative action, signing on to the President’s climate and pandemic priorities. Back then I assumed that was a reflection of honest belief, rather than craven self-interest.
The complete 180 he’s done reveals something else entirely. It was only a year ago that Scott Kirby was being roasted on the right for resurfaced clips where he dressed in drag for US Airways Halloween. Now Woke United Airlines has transformed itself into MAGA Air.
What will the next ideological reinvention be, in 2028?
Relying on business leaders to ‘do the right thing’ is nearly always a lost cause.
Scott Kirby and other CEOs today are like Siemens and Bayer from that other era. And, Stephen Miller looks and acts like Joseph Goebbels, prove me wrong.
The people have the real power; we, individually and collectively, have to stand up against overreach, regardless of who is in-charge.
Anyway, nice rage-bait, Gary. “I must say…damn good stuff, sir…” (Inglourious Basterds)
A CEO kissing the a%s of a politician of which said politician they may need favorable treatment from? Like how all the criminal bankers kissed the butt of Obama in 2009 so he wouldn’t send them to jail? Like this is something new.
Gary, it’s disappointing that this article is more political than it is travel-related, but since you put it out there I’ll need to correct a major error: You state that “Stephen Miller is the President’s Deputy Chief of Staff. He’s the architect and defender of the President’s most extreme policies on immigration, like family separation”. That’s flat false, for two important reasons: 1) For families that have the potential to be separated due to criminal activity by one or both parents, they are given the choice to take their children with them as they leave. The family is not forcibly separated. 2) Moreover, it was Biden who “lost” 300,000 unaccompanied minors (out of 470,000 on the records as illegally entering the United States). It is President Trump who launched an unprecedented effort to locate them (and save those whom Biden had placed with sponsors such as registered/known sex offenders). Your original choice of words was flagrantly false and uncalled for.
Why should we be surprised to hear this from Scott Kirby? Just talk to UA employees, e.g. check-in agents, flight attendants… you will see his true personalities. Some said that they would rather trust a king cobra than Kirby.
@1990 – for a business leader to “do the right thing” that means they are growing the business, raising profitability and providing value to shareholders. Frankly anything else is secondary. In this case no need to pander to Biden when he can’t help you any more. CEOs across the board are smart to focus their words and actions in favor of whomever is in the white house. That isn’t being wrong – it is doing exactly the “right thing” for their business and ensuring their employees continue to have jobs.
He’s a kiss up and a yes man. . .why he didn’t work out at AA. Eventually, it will catch up to him when he has to make the tough decisions.
Pretty sure he didn’t have employees putting their “pronounces” in their emails. As Twain said, the difference between the right word and the wrong word is the difference between lightning and a lightning bug.
@George Romey — ‘A tale as old as time.’ And, apparently, it works well for them and their shareholders (Kirby is merely a mercenary for the ‘asset’ class, after all).
As to post-2008 financial crisis, yeah, those civil lawsuits (billions in fines) were a mere slap-on-the-wrist, and, you’re correct that no top-level executives faced criminal charges or jail time. It’s really upsetting to the rest of us who faced real economic consequences for their greed. Some say it’s a lack of commitment, competence, and courage by the DOJ (great read, The Chickenshit Club: Why the Justice Department Fails to Prosecute Executives). Ultimately, many of those banks were not only “too big to fail,” but also, “too big to jail.” The Dodd-Frank Act (and Basel III, internationally) sought to reform this, and ensure greater resiliency (new capital and liquidity requirements), but, currently, shadow banking (hedge funds, private equity), general secrecy and de-regulation, monopolization and regulatory capture, rampant speculation, insider trading, market manipulation, and blatant corruption by the literal President through cryptocurrency and global kleptocracy are probably far worse today than in the 2000s or 2010s.
@1990: Take it easy with the Holocaust revisionism and inversion. You are entitled to not like Stephen Miller and to disagree with his policies but to call him Joseph Goebbels is a massive insult and shows huge disrespect to the victims of the Holocaust.
Kirby is thinking doing deportation flights . He could be paid in ICE points redeemable for White House Favors such as making certain those annoying flight attendants will be ordered to never strike or overnight stays in the Lincoln Bedroom.
@Common Sense — No, the comparison is apt to 1930s Germany, the rise of that party, and Goebbels use of propaganda to obtain and keep power by scapegoating the vulnerable.
I did not bring up the Holocaust, you did. Be honest; we don’t know where any of this, today, leads. If the end result is a mass extermination of people, that would be the worst outcome. But, no, that hasn’t happened, yet. Just the early stages, removal and exile of those vulnerable groups. See, mass deportations, ICE raids, extrajudicial rendition to El Salvadorian gulags, etc. Undeniable. Fact.
THAT’S A VERY APPROPRIATE QUOTE FROM CAPTAIN RENAULT. KIRBY, LIKE TRUMP & VANCE, HASN’T SCRUPLES OR COURAGE, NOT EVEN BASIC COURAGE. IT’S HARD TO TALK, INNIT SCOTTY, WITH ONLY HALF YOUR MOUTH.
Folks, Gary literally includes a clip from the film Casablanca… “I blow with the wind” (I presume, Gary’s suggesting that Cpt. Renault and Scott Kirby are alike, these days.) Recall, that film, released 1942, during the heart of WWII, literally about a stopover for refugees escaping occupied-Europe… Sure, Rick (Humphrey Bogart) wanted to stay ‘neutral,’ but ultimately, he chose to engage, to fight back. As Laszlo tells him: “Welcome back to the fight. This time I know our side will win!”
Some of you have forgotten the lessons of our past. No doubt, a few of you will dare to feign ‘outrage’ or even applaud commenter @Common Sense above, but, you ironically have lost your ‘common sense’ by doing so. Anyone with a conscience should reject his rhetorical ‘dance’ of claiming anyone who mentions that history is merely ‘disrespectful’ to the victims of that history. No, I am trying to prevent it from happening again. When I say, ‘never again,’ I mean it.
@Maryland — If so, that’s really disturbing and sad; perhaps, Kirby (and other CEOs) realize that the objectively bad economic policies of this administration are very much leading to a larger recession, so he may have more and more spare, unused aircraft available soon. Still, blaming our problems on vulnerable people, then forcibly removing them, doesn’t solve the underlying economic issues. (‘How many times old man…’)
@1990 – “I did not bring up the Holocaust, you did.”
Did you miss the part where you typed Joseph Goebbels’s name? Or are you really that dense?
Whole-heartedly agree with @1990 here. Stephen Miller is a dangerous opportunist, and my stance has nothing to do with politics and everything to do with morals. This administration ignores the law and uses the judicial system that ultimately filters up to cronies he placed on the highest court in the land to grind accountability to a hault or make it go away altogether.
Regarding Kirby, he’s clearly engaging in behavior that is indicative of placing shareholder value above all else, but in this realm of government oversight and opportunities arising from utterly deplorable policies, he knows exactly how to position himself and not piss off the mad king.
I’m really sad EWR is the only airport that makes any sense for me to frequent.
I fly United a lot. And when the ads boasting about how United was choosing pilots by race to encourage diversity came on the screen you could see many people were not thrilled. I want the best pilots, usually trained by the Air Force or Navy and veterans with thousands of hours of flight time. I do not want some 60 year old person who ticks multiple minority boxes being chosen after a relatively short training period.
I saw a 3 striper (first officer) walking through Denver International with her roller bag who was at least 60 years old, looked like a retired kindergarten teacher. And she is going to be sitting in the left seat relatively soon? It is possible that she is a retired AF officer, but my money is that she was looking for a career change late in life.
@Brian L
1990 has so severe TDS, he or she can’t see straight. By the way I don’t like that weasel Scott Kirby.
I agree with 1990. Finding a victim to blame, this time under the meaningless term “woke” is an old, old trick that distracts people from who is really making things worse for them. (Though frankly I’d rather be woken up than stumble through life following a demagogue and his gang.) Ask yourself, who is more of a danger to you and the country, a tiny minority of trans people (at most 1% of the US) who just want to be left alone, all minorities–and women–who just want to be treated fairly and with respect, or the 1% who own about 30% of the national wealth who just want to have more, more, and more of it.
@Brian L. — Oh, so ‘Goebbels’ only means ‘the Holocaust,’ and if you disagree, you’re ‘dense.’ /s
No, I missed nothing; you and the other commenter above are actually minimizing the threat of what lead to those atrocities in the past.
While the structural differences between the 21st-century American political system and 1930s Nazi Germany are profound, the comparison between Stephen Miller and Joseph Goebbels rests on their shared ideological blueprint for seizing and applying state power.
They are both highly influential, extremist political strategists whose methods rely on ultranationalism, ethnic scapegoating, and the systematic use of charged rhetoric. They cultivate a narrative of existential threat, where a specific minority or ‘other’ is blamed for national problems, to justify aggressive and discriminatory state action.
Miller’s political agenda mirrors an ideological drive toward a chillingly similar goal of unrestrained state power. His policies and publicly discussed goals, particularly the association with plans (like those central to Project 2025) to dismantle the federal civil service and seize regulatory control, represent a clear effort to bypass democratic checks and concentrate authority within the executive branch.
The crucial difference here is in the outcome and direct culpability. Goebbels was the chief ideologue and propagandist who created the intellectual and emotional justification for the Holocaust. He did more than just spread hate; he actively supervised the deportations of Jews from Berlin and ensured the total moral mobilization required to carry out the genocide. His responsibility for the regime’s murderous agenda is an indisputable historical fact.
So, we should take Miller seriously, because, he’s starting us down a dark path. ‘Just following orders’ (or, just ‘enforcing the law’) is not sufficient excuse for denying our fellow humans their dignity or rights, including, especially, due process, freedom of speech, the rights to vote and assemble, and everything else enumerated in the U.S. Constitution.
@drrichard — Thank you, sir. Keep fighting the good fight. This topic is not about mere differences of opinion on tax policy or some other trivial matter; it’s the whole ball-game. Some above already know this, too, but they think they’re on the ‘winning’ team and as long as they support the ‘regime,’ they’ll be ‘fine,’ yet, in reality, and historically, with fascism, we all lose.
@James – in fact in 2021 United told employees to add their pronounds to email signatures https://viewfromthewing.com/the-return-of-woke-united-airlines/
They recommended sharing pronouns when introducing yourself (“My name is Jane and my pronouns are they/them/theirs”) and using gender-neutral language addressing groups (“everyone,” “all” “folks” not “ladies and gentlemen” etc.).
Personally I’m rather partial to “y’all” but I live in Texas.
Your comment on Kirby is unfair. 180 is not the same as 360 and your comments were suggestive of a 360 degree change. Why penalize him for have good common sense? Retirement fund are highly based on stocks. We need a good economic system. Kirby knows that yet you blast him for a full political change. Shame on you.
@Coffee Please — Bud, I haven’t even mentioned the President, yet; not to mention, didn’t you hear, TDS is now ‘T. Devotion Syndrome.’ Get help. The cult won’t last forever. The fever will break.
@1990: Come on. Which is the party ignoring all the anti semitism in their party and allowing openly terrorist supporting protests in all the schools (Germany 1935)? Etc etc etc?
Stephen Miller is pushing for illegal immigrants to get the boot, which, I have news for you, is the law, and has always been the law. He is not doing any of the stuff you claim he is.
@Benny — Thank you, as well. Integrity is everything. Miller’s own relatives have publicly criticized him, basically reminding us all that he knows better.
His uncle, David S. Glosser, said: “I have watched with dismay and increasing horror as my nephew, who is an educated man and well aware of his heritage, has become the architect of immigration policies that repudiate the very foundation of our family’s life in this country.” And also, “If my nephew’s ideas on immigration had been in force a century ago, our family would have been wiped out.”
His cousin, Alisa Kasmer, said: “I am living with the deep pain of watching someone I once loved become the face of evil.” And also, “We celebrated holidays each year with the reminder to stand up and say ‘never again.’ But what you are doing breaks that sacred promise. It breaks everything we were taught… How can you do to others what has been done to us? How can you wake up each day and repeat the cruelty that our people barely escaped from?”
Some here vocally don’t like me, likely because I call them out, regularly, for their hate and bigotry; others merely disagree with me on matters of preference or policy, which, is totally cool, because reasonable minds can and should respectfully disagree; finally, a few think this is all just a joke, but, no, not this topic; this one’s for real.
@Common Sense — When in doubt, pivot to the Middle East. Good one!
Criticism of Netanyahu’s political and military actions is categorically distinct from prejudice against Jewish people. To conflate the two is to cynically misuse the serious charge of antisemitism to shield a government from accountability.
Personally, I continue to support the *people* of Israel and their right to defend themselves; I also support the dignity of all human beings, including the Arabs living within that territory, today. I’d like to visit Israel now that the hostages have been freed and a path to peace appears possible. However, it’s quite delicate over there.
Do you actually care, or just trying to score a quick ‘gotcha’?
Shame on Kirby. No more United for us!
@Common Sense — As to the ‘but, but… they’re just following the law’ argument, aka, ‘just following orders’ (great new film out, Nuremberg, and no, it’s not at that level, yet, but it could be), all because folks like yourself (parroting Miller’s propaganda) deem these people ‘illegal.’ Like I said above, that is not sufficient justification for knowingly violating international humanitarian laws and defying our U.S. Constitution, which is supposed to prevent our government from such overreach.
Your and Miller’s political rhetoric here intentionally conflates the relative seriousness of violating certain laws in order to create that ‘other’ in this initial vulnerable group (and then keep power indefinitely because of it). Being ‘undocumented’ is akin to a civil infraction (like, overstaying a visa, would be 5-10 mph over the speed limit), or a misdemeanor (improper entry, like, +20 mph over), so, in most cases, not a felony (illegal re-entry, committing other serious crimes here, as if +30 mph over in school zone).
I’m not in-favor of violating our laws, immigration or otherwise; we need actual reforms here, but every time bi-partisan legislation has come about, it gets shot down, most recently by #47 in the lead up to his election in 2024. So, now, in 2025, instead of handling those violations in an orderly, humane way, this administration treats all of these people like they were murders, wrongly suspending their due process, and in some cases, summarily, extrajudicially rounding-up and renditioning these people to third-countries. The ends do not justify those means. It’s cruel and unusual. All of it.
For everyone ragging on the poster for mentioning Goebbels because the United CEO hasn’t started a Holocaust, you seem to have forgotten that he existed before the Holocaust and that his actions led to it.
The important thing to recognize about the O.G. Nazis is that they did not become bad people the day they killed the first Jewish person. They were already bad people long before the killing started, and some of our current leaders today are exhibiting the same behaviors as the Nazis did before they seized complete power.
You do not have to kill 6 million people of a specific group to be a Nazi. Simply wanting to systematically hurt and scapegoat them, even if you haven’t yet succeeded, is sufficient.
Or it could be people are just tired of woke nonsense from pampered westerners with luxury beliefs or any “ism” in general.
Many of us just want the days like flying was in the 1990s. No complicated nonsense , up front pricing, and a good product at a fair price.
That’s really all people want from any business they deal with, it’s not hard.
Airlines…. Good product at a fair price.
Dentist…. Good service at a fair price.
Best Buy…. Good product at a fair price.
Tire center… see above.
Anything else…. See above.
It’s not hard to do but it’s getting more impossible due to the private equity bros, insufferable HR goblins who infest large businesses, do gooders, and cultural/religious zealots who dirty everything they touch.
@1990: I can tell that you are upset, but courts have deemed nothing illegal about the way they’re deporting illegal aliens.
I think the way the media have described criminals as heroes has had an effect on you. Or like when they describe someone to be deported as a “Louisiana Man” when he arrived a year ago from Gaza as a “refugee” when he was in fact a Hamas terrorist who participated in the October 7th massacre of innocent men, women, and children.
Don’t forget about the Gell-Mann Amnesia effect (pun not intended) and use your critical thinking to determine what is actually likely to lead to detrimental results for this country and who the actual fascists are. Some supposedly “right” people (Tucker Qatarlson, Candace Owens) are trying to bring back Nazism and they are getting called out by huge swaths on the right.
“I have no convictions, if that’s what you mean. I blow with the wind, and right now the wind blows from Vichy.” — uh, MAGA.
@Common Sense:
“I think the way the media have described criminals as heroes has had an effect on you. Or like when they describe someone to be deported as a “Louisiana Man” when he arrived a year ago from Gaza as a “refugee” when he was in fact a Hamas terrorist who participated in the October 7th massacre of innocent men, women, and children.”
-Interesting, never knew that. Do you have any proof about this?
Regarding the immigration issue:
“U.S. Catholic Bishops Issue Pointed Condemnation Of Trump’s Immigration Policies”
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/catholic-bishops-trump-immigration-pope_n_6915576ae4b0bf453c7b87f2
That’s some serious stuff!
Proof that they described the terrorist as a “Louisiana Man”?
One of many:
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2025/10/17/louisiana-hamas-arrested-monster-war/86753312007/
The opposite of woke is asleep.
Kirby: He’s going with the political winds, I doubt we know what his real position is.
Pronouns: A good thing in my book. I am not trans, I don’t know any trans people, but I do have a name with male and female spellings that causes a lot of confusion. If I was in a customer-facing position I would definitely want them to avoid embarrassing people when they get it wrong.
Goebbels: The comparison is quite reasonable–what he’s known for is the idea of repeating a lie so often as to get people to consider it normal. The fact that he was doing it to promote Nazi ideology is secondary.
Deportation: There are some on here pretending things are acceptable. They are not.
1) Due process. You can’t deny due process to any group because that actually denies it to everyone–no hearing for illegals? Thus no hearing for citizens mistakenly or deliberately swept up with the illegals. We’ve already seen examples of them disregarding evidence that someone was a citizen.
2) When you deport somebody you do so to their country. Not to some convenient hellhole that can be bribed into accepting deportees.
3) Family separation is very much an issue. Kids might be “allowed” to go with the parents–but there’s nothing about that that says the kids are admissible to the country the parents are being deported to.
4) Some are most likely criminals. They would have been deported in time anyway. But the supply of “criminals” rapidly dried up, they’re pretending innocents are criminals to make their quotas.
And note that the border problem (not that it’s that big a problem anyway) is a deliberate Republican creation–the Republicans refused to permit anything to be done so as to have it as a campaign issue. MAGA complaining about the border is like the guy pleading that he’s an orphan when he’s on trial for killing his parents.
Ignoring some of your overwrought, politically charged rhetoric, it is certainly true that Scott Kirby’s actions seem to shift with the political winds. From a purely human perspective, that’s not great. I generally prefer people who stand for something, even when I don’t necessarily agree with their beliefs. That said, Kirby is CEO of a Fortune 500 company. His primary duty is to shareholders. I suspect those shareholders — including Kirby himself — benefit from his lack of fixed convictions.
@Charles, @Loren — Thank you each, and very well said.
@Chopsticks — “His primary duty is to shareholders.” That’s myopic, and quite a cynical view of corporations, workers, consumers, and the society we all live in. Kirby, as the CEO of a major airline in a highly-regulated, publicly-funded industry, really should consider far more than the mere short-term (or even long-term) profits of shareholders. I wish we would truly adopt a stakeholder model of business and steward model of leadership, which historically, economically, creates more value overall for everyone, not just shareholders or those at the top.
@Jared — Affordability and quality of life are real issues, here (USA) and globally. However, nostalgia, blaming whatever ‘isms’ you wish, and use of ‘woke,’ as a pejorative, even if that was inadvertent, doesn’t specifically identify or solve any problems. Demagogues are quick to take your anger and fear and direct it at scapegoats while taking power and money for themselves. We should instead focus on a stronger social safety net, better worker rights, and consumer protections, for all.
@Common Sense — How confidently incorrect on the courts, you are. Most cases have been against both #45/47 administrations. The pattern tends to be that lower federal courts block the most sweeping immigration restrictions due to concerns about due process and administrative law, while the Supreme Court often steps in to temporarily allow the policies to proceed, particularly through the use of emergency applications (shadow docket). However, when the issues are actually fully-litigated, it’s mostly against the administration (it just takes time to complete the process). Back in 2018, Family Separations (ACLU v. DHS), the first administration had to reunite the children with their parents. On His attempted use of 1798 Alien Enemies Act, the appeals court ruled against administration this September, clarifying that the law can only used during war/invasion by foreign government (not merely ‘gangs’). A federal judge just ruled against ICE/DHS tactics on Warrantless Arrests (November 2025). And, have you forgotten the high-profile case, Noem v. Ábrego García, the Supreme Court ruled against the administration, he was return to the United States (still detained, now fighting an absurd attempt to be removed to Liberia, clearly vindictive acts by the admin, yet again), and, importantly, his case affirmed judicial authority over clear due process violations, even in the realm of deportation. (I won’t even address your conspiracy theory nonsense about Nick F, which is what you were alluding to. Vile stuff.)
This is yet another example that DEI support isn’t widespread. This is consistent with my professional experience. People are willing to act like they are huge DEI supporters. They know it’s BS, but that was were the wind was blowing.
@Common Sense:
He’s been accused and has denied it. Doesn’t make him guilty though. He probably is but he deserves his day in court.
@1990: “(I won’t even address your conspiracy theory nonsense about Nick F, which is what you were alluding to. Vile stuff.)”
I don’t understand what you are talking about. Are you saying that Nick F. is NOT a Nazi and Stalin supporter? Are you saying that Tucker and Candace are not supporting him?
@jacobin777: Semantics. He will be proven guilty and he definitely didn’t meet the bar to be admitted to the USA. Out vetting sucks.
@This comes to mind — I’ll define it for you, and others: Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) “seeks to promote the fair treatment and full participation of all people, especially groups who have historically been underrepresented or subject to discrimination based on identity or disability.”
If this era has taught us anything its that implicit bias, prejudice, discrimination, and outright animus is alive and well in our society, sadly, so DEI is necessary more than ever. Similar to the word, ‘woke,’ how it has regrettably become a go-to pejorative, ‘DEI’ has become a literal racist/sexist dog-whistle to be used against ‘brown/black’ people, women, LGBTQ, etc.
However, most people in the USA are tolerant, understand the ideals of our country (all people are created equal; life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness; e pluribus unum, out of many, one; a nation of immigrants, a ‘melting pot’).
So, regardless of this administration’s abhorrent policies, or your personal opinions, most Americans are still decent people; there is actual widespread support for these concepts of Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion; and, it is a genuinely good ideal for us to strive for in our multiracial, multicultural, diverse secular society.
@Common Sense — You know that Nick Fuentes is self-described ‘white supremacist,’ who often praises Hitler and minimizes the Holocaust; he is clearly an antisemite; abhorrent; vile; toxic; and, he’s a serious threat for Republicans as he’s trying to co-opt your base.
@1990: Isn’t that exactly what I said?
Common Sense is great with mealymouthed explanations.
WearyWatchdog: Hmm, is this better?
Tucker Qatarlson=Evil.
Candace Owens=Evil.
Megyn Kelly=Accomplice to Evil.
Etc.
Zohran Mamdani=Evil.
Hasan Piker=Evil.
Cenk Turk: Evil.
Etc.
Hope that’s clearer. 🙂
@Common Sense — It’s not what you said, but, glad we could clarify.
And, those six you listed, from both sides, are not ‘evil.’ Somethings they, like all of us, can be misguided, or say things they shouldn’t.
Nick Fuentes, on the other hand, may qualify as evil. Paradox of tolerance.
1990: Genuinely confused why you seem to think I said otherwise.
They all support what Nick F says and does. They are more evil than him because they are trying to insidiously mainstream it. The Horseshoe Theory appears to be correct. Although, I wouldn’t call those first the “right”. It’s self identification and their positions gave nothing to do with actual conservatives.
@Common Sense — I would not oversimplify or downplay the more significant threat from the far-right on antisemitism; however, I would not conflate that with the apparent anti-Zionism from some on the left. Regardless, I think we should reject conspiratorial and authoritarian worldviews because they harm more people disproportionately.
1990: Don’t be naive. They dress up their views in fancy language, but it’s the same hate, just more dangerous.
Stay safe out there.
@Common Sense — Likewise. Day-to-day is fine, at least for now. Wait. Did I just read that we’re going to war with Venezuela? Yikes. Those files must have finally dropped… wag the dog!
I would certainly say, what they are doing now is a VAST improvement. Now get the HQ out of Obama, ghetto Chicago.
@arrowspace90 — Oh, not even thinly-veiled; why not go full ‘hard-r’ next time? Yikes.
So people are shocked a CEO is trying to work well with the administrations he deals with during his and their tenure? Shocker.
It seems more voters were upset about the woke direction of the country under Biden, hence the election result. So is Kirby to go against the majority of voters, against the customers who voted for Trump, go against a President of the United States direction? How has that worked in the past? Before Elon was ever out as pro-Trump, and as at the time (now #2) by far the leading seller of EV”s in the world, he wasn’t even invited to the EV Summit Biden put on at the White House. Being on the wrong side of a President is generally highly damaging. Being against what the majority of voters, people actually motivate to get their butts off the sofa and to a polling place, likely isn’t smart.
Additionally, the Woke/Left brand, which Kirby undoubtedly personally subscribes to, has been highly damaged with the strong violence extremists on the Left had perpetrated. Trump x 2, Charlie Kirk, the United Healthcare CEO Brian Thompson, the Israeli embassy workers, Brett Vavanaugh, etc. The last 12-18 months it’s been tough for business leaders who serve everyone to align with the woke side vs the past four years. United isn’t Starbucks, Trader Joes, Ben and Jerry’s.
In the end, this is not about who you or I support, this is about a man doing his best to run an airline as efficiently as possible within the confines of the government in power at the time. Lastly, it’s not like United is alone. Hundreds of big companies have rolled back or canceled their DEI and other woke programs. The tide swung that way, and is swinging back.
TexasTJ, besides being correct in the false statements Gary made, which you pointed out (and I doubt were “accidental” on his part), US citizens are arrested and separated from their parents thousands of times per day. Some never get to be in the same room with them for years or more. Why are people expecting better treatment for illegals than citizens?
And the same people saying “The Constitution applies to illegals…..” need to realize that Constitution is a take all or leave all document. So are these same people of the belief the 2nd Amendment applies to illegals? They can buy, keep and carry firearms?
We really need to stop applying logic and law here, as people are relying on feelings. The Left screamed from the mountain tops the past four years “Nobody is above the law!”. Well, I guess they only require this of citizens, and exempt illegals. The ever moving target, that only applies to to some.
@Mark Dahncke — Nah, Kirby being a sycophant is a short-term play, but a long-term loser; be Costco, not Target.
As for the US Constitution, wrong again, it covers all persons in the country, so, due process for instance still applies to undocumented people.