Southwest Airlines sells ‘through-flights’ differently than everyone else. If it’s a single flight number, their website doesn’t even show you where you’re connecting unless you click on the flight details. (“Connecting flights” where each one has a different flight number show the city you’ll change planes at.)
Here’s a flight from Austin to Las Vegas that actually stops briefly in Amarillo. At the start of the weekend it’ll have perhaps 40% of passengers from Austin to Amarillo continuing to Vegas, even though Southwest has plenty of non-stops from Austin to Vegas.
When you land at your connecting city you’re asked to stay on the plane while everyone terminating at the connecting point gets off. They verify the passenger count that’s going on to the next city.
And you get a leg up on choice of seats for the next flight! You’re ‘on the plane first’ even before passengers who pretended to need a wheelchair in order to board before the A group.
So presumably there were plenty of people flying from Denver to Dallas on Southwest flight 1450 on Monday, despite the plane’s planned stop in El Paso first. Those passengers made more stops than they’d planned.
After an uneventful journey to El Paso, they took off again and headed for Dallas Love Field. They made it within a few hundred feet of landing at that airport before having to divert to Austin. There was bad weather in North Texas, and Austin actually sees more diverted flights than any other airport in the country.
- Austin is within about 40 minutes’ flying time from Dallas – Fort Worth; Dallas Love Field; Houston Intercontinental; and Houston Hobby (and even closer to other, smaller, airports like San Antonio).
- The airport used to be Bergstrom Air Force Base, closed as part of the BRAC process in 1993. So it is a large facility. It has a 12,250 foot runway (18R/36L) and a 9,000 foot runway (18L/36R). There’s space to accommodate a large number of aircraft.
- It’s served by all of the major carriers, so it’s a logical diversion point for American; Delta; Southwest; United; Alaska; JetBlue; Spirit; Frontier; Hawaiian; and Allegiant.
- Austin has a customs facility, making it functional as a diversion point for international flights from United and American hubs in Dallas and Houston as well as for Air Canada, Aeromexico, British Airways, KLM, Lufthansa, et al.
After re-fueling, our friends on Southwest started their journey back to Dallas but were held over Lubbock – before diverting again to Midland, Texas. Then they were forced to try again.
After departing at 9:21 a.m. Mountain time from Denver, it looks like these passengers finally arrived at Dallas Love Field at 11:46 p.m. Central – 13.5 hours to travel 650 miles. This double diversion was certainly not Southwest’s fault amidst weather, but they could have driven.
Good thing the crew didn’t run out of duty time.
Add another 3-4 hrs for the transit to/from the airport + TSA theatre.
Geez, I drive from Houston to Dumas (642 miles) in 9 hrs door to door. And no one puts their feet up on my armrest.
Very surprising to hear one of the more definitive experts on flying (Gary) refer to a Direct Flight as a “Through Flight”. The proper term for a flight with a single flight number which flys between two cities but make one or more interim stops along the way is a Direct Flight.
Very surprising to hear one of the more definitive experts on flying (Gary) refer to a Direct Flight as a “Through Flight”. The proper term for a flight with a single flight number which flies between two cities but make one or more interim stops along the way is a Direct Flight.
One more reason to only fly non-stop.
after a couple of months of very mild weather in the US, DFW and DAL yesterday had some of the few delays that airlines have seen.
Air Canada flights are pre-cleared. They don’t need Immigration or Customs
Do I get more flight segments and points? How about multiple snack and drink services? Driving would be hard for 13 hours through the mountains of Colorado. Southwest wanted passengers to experience Texas.
13 hours of driving is tough. But driving from Denver to Dallas, there are no mountains to traverse. All mountains in Colorado are west of Denver and the I-25 route. That’s why it’s called the Front Range.
“Very surprising to hear one of the more definitive experts on flying (Gary) refer to a Direct Flight as a ‘Through Flight’. The proper term for a flight with a single flight number which flies between two cities but make one or more interim stops along the way is a Direct Flight.” Yes, and my friends, all smart, just not airline geeky, often call a “nonstop” a “direct.” I suspect Gary thought using “through” would confuse less people. You don’t talk down to the audience, but you use phrasing that is less likely to cause confusion. I, for one, will now use this new-found term. Dear friend, be careful that you’re not booking a through flight when you want a nonstop, even if you see the word “direct.”
Re: “You’re ‘on the plane first even before passengers who pretended to need a wheelchair in order to board before the A group.”
I’d really appreciate it if you wouldn’t perpetuate this stereotype. I am not that old and look pretty able-bodied and I need a wheelchair to get thru an airport. Not because I can’t walk but because I can’t stand for long periods of time due to botched surgery when I was young. Being disabled is enough trouble without people like you giving us the stink eye or (often loudly) accusing us of faking it. Just please mind your own business and let me mind mine.
Rather boring airline article
Gary is using the term “though flight” as the employees of Southwest do. Pay attention to the briefing next time y’all are on a direct WN flight with intermediate stops Dave W and TexasTJ. WN even calls flight pay “trip pay”.
Thanks, @One Trippe, having never flown Southwest in my life, I would not have known that. Nonetheless, the formal Industry Definition is that this is a Direct (as opposed to Non-Stop) flight. At a minimum, Gary should have used both terms.
“Pay attention to the briefing next time y’all are on a direct WN flight with intermediate stops Dave W and TexasTJ.” So, while I pay attention to briefings, I have never been on a WN “through” flight. But, I will hold my head in shame for my lack of clairvoyance.
More importantly, given the public thinks “direct” means “nonstop,” I will, as I said, now use it. But, with your aid, I will now credit WN rather than Gary.
@Jennifer Jonsson. If you read here regularly, you will note that, except for a few trolls, we all agree that:
1) people who need wheelchairs should get them and board first
2) not all people who need wheelchairs are incapable of walking
3) not all disabilities are easily observable
4) some people who don’t need wheelchairs will pretend to in order to board early
5) people in (4) above are scum
So, a line like “before passengers who pretended to need a wheelchair” isn’t directed to you, but those in (4). I would think you’d agree with (4) and (5).
Why would the flight fly over Lubbock which is in west Texas and gets further away from DAL (after departing AUS)?
@ TexasTJ and Dave W. My apologies if I seemed rude. I spent many years commuting on SWA and still have occasional dreams (nightmares) about missing flights and being a no-show. I’m with you though. Way too many center seat flights . . . I now buy F or J and I’m not having to share 17.5″ of economy seat width with customers of size.
But then I’m at the age that “if you don’t go First Class, you’re children will.”
I was on this flight starting in Denver. To make matters worse, my final destination was Lubbock and we did figure 8s over it in a holding pattern since DAL was still experiencing a bottleneck with arrivals. This route was somehow the cheapest option but had the most (planned) stops. Not a fun experience, but the crew and ground staff were all great.