About Gary Leff

Gary Leff is one of the foremost experts in the field of miles, points, and frequent business travel - a topic he has covered since 2002. Co-founder of frequent flyer community InsideFlyer.com, emcee of the Freddie Awards, and named one of the "World's Top Travel Experts" by Conde' Nast Traveler (2010-Present) Gary has been a guest on most major news media, profiled in several top print publications, and published broadly on the topic of consumer loyalty. More About Gary »

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  1. This goes back to a comment I made on a different post by Gary: Many CEOs and business leaders don’t make decisions based on what’s best for their company. They make decisions based on what’s best for them. If it will help me meet a performance goal and get a bigger bonus it’s the “right” decision, regardless if it screws the company down the road. That will be someone else’s problem.

    The failure of Boards of Directors to address this is disgusting.

  2. This article finally convinced me that flying AA is a joke. I have miles that I should use, probably will not. And I’m Aadvantage Gold

  3. I 100% agree with you Gary. The AA flight attendants are over paid, especially the ones in Boston. We need to get that corrected so the fares come down. Match comp foe the in flight cocktail waitresses to customer satisfaction. Only then will the in the air magazine reading iPhone staring haters of customers be fairly compensated.

    That was the point wasn’t it?

  4. I recently had the following experience with AA after a lovely family vacation. They replaced my bag and gave us a tiny refund for the unused portion of our tickets ($190), but they have not followed up about the hotel expense or, you know, their overwhelming ghastliness. My husband had to drag me away from the woman in a wheelchair with my mouth hanging open.

    https://www.linkedin.com/posts/becky-priest-santavicca-755b714a_i-should-have-taken-the-hello-kitty-plane-activity-7177827158176735232-YT9P?utm_source=share&utm_medium=member_android

  5. -The board of directors sets executive compensation, not the CEO.

    -Envy is such a noble emotion (meant sarcastically).

    -You’ve been the CEO of how many airlines?

  6. You’re always an ultra skeptic of AA, Gary. I still remember about a year ago that you predicted they’d go Chapter 11 soon (which was laughable at the time, and seems just plain stupid now). Are CEOs overpaid? Sure. But so far, Isom has done a good job. He has, for example, made the airplanes run on time. I’m pretty certain he will prove himself an EXCELLENT airline CEO. And your comment today will seem as ridiculous as your bankruptcy comment a year ago.

  7. “He made the trains run on time.”
    “He has, for example, made the airplanes run on time.”

    Similar?

  8. Congrats, @jns, you got the reference.

    But it’s a big deal. He was an operations guy, and he’s done a heck of a job with the operation. Meanwhile, as seems to be the executive culture there, they seem full of good innovative ideas — while keeping an eye on whether they’re profitable. We will have to see how it goes, but NO ONE thinks Isom is off to a bad start.

  9. @ Gary — There are very few people in the world who “deserve” to earn $30 million per year, and Robert Isom isn’t one of them.

  10. @Chopsticks – I did not predict chapter 11. That is simply not true.

    In 2020 financial markets were predicting it, but government bailout rescued them.

    Later I described a specific scenario where it could happen – where fuel prices were high, the economy was in the recession – American’s costs rose while revenue fell (from tickets as well as card revenue). That has not been the macro scenario in the United States and I did not say that it would be.

    Please do not misrepresent me.

  11. @desertghost “-The board of directors sets executive compensation, not the CEO.”

    Such wise words I think it is a point made quite clear in this post hence a whole section on this board.

    As for envy, I do not wish to trade places with the current CEO of American Airlines !

  12. I wish AA didn’t defer those new widebodies, flew to more long haul destinations, and actually valued Executive Platinum members. It’s actually HARDER to earn these days than before, unless you make $400k a year and/or are allowed to put major company spend on personal credit cards.

  13. A first year associate at Wachtell makes over $400k a year. So do “senior” software engineers at Meta, engagement managers at McKinsey, the list goes on. If you’re not making $400k by age 25, you’re a certifiable loser.

  14. Robert Isom enriches himself off the backs of his employees. Flight attendants still work under an expired 2019 contract, some at poverty levels. And let’s not forget the 650+ service recovery employees who were laid off at the end of March in an effort to consolidate and “improve” customer service. Let’s see how that works out. There’s a special place reserved for Isom and his cronies….

  15. @high class professional: making $400k TC by 25 is not possible as a big law lawyer. That’s a 4th year salary (age 28). No one at McKinsey makes that much until they make Jr Partner.

    At Meta, it may be possible but requires two promos in 3 years. Even then, equity isn’t high enough to achieve 400k for a couple more years without crazy good stock appreciation. Has happened in the past but job market is way tighter now and promos have slowed.

    Tldr, you’re a douche

  16. The part of the story which seems unfair is that 2.5 million was given to Parker (Former CEO) charity while these guys are paid paid millions every year. It could have been better spent by giving each flight attendant 100 bucks as it has been over 5 years without any wage increase. And people wonder why the service is so poor on American Airlines.

  17. Don’t forget about the 650+ that were laid off to Improve customer service by outsourcing to Manila, Port of Spain, and cape-town.

    Flight attendants are still waiting on a package for livable wages, and some qualifying for
    FOOD STAMPS.

    I’m baffled that a company who reported record profits can get away with this.

    Isom getting “back wages” while employees also went without pay, or profit sharing.

    What a joke of an airline.
    Waiting to see how this plays out for them.

  18. With a huge dep ,paying a fortune every month to the pilots ,now is going to star the mechanics new contract negotiation ,old planes folling apart ,and all the others employees without a raise for 5 years I can not see a future for AA ,only brankropcy !!!good luck AA ,and nobody knows why the service with AA is so horrible!!!!is because nobody cares!!!

  19. Well AA is a very large company but I struggle with a CEO comp package of >$30MM that I don’t see matched by performance, esp. for its shareholders, of which I am glad I am not one.

    I do have opinions on corporate governance, having been deeply involved in it. A lot of AAL’s issues stem from having pretty worthless Chairmen, IMO, esp. the current incumbent who may be a nice guy and a fantastic financial engineer, but otherwise, not so useful. I was never joking when I used to opine that Akbar Al Baker would make a great Chairman for AAL. He certainly wouldn’t be pushed around by the CEO.

    AAL also needs a strong Comp Committee Chair. IME, too many comp committees jut look for the “right” consultant’s review and report so they can support whatever plans they put in place if they get sued for it.

    In closing, it would be interested to know what if any conditions have to be met for Isom to get his share grants.

  20. IMO- Being a CEO of a very large company (and even a small one, say 200 employees) is a bit more difficult than most people think? I mean, you are always available. Yeah- you go on vacation but you are checking email while your kid makes their first cannonball in the pool.

    You are on a business trip when you son gets his first hit.

    You are on a conference call when your daughter pulls out a tooth- by herself.

    You are awake every day at 3am talking with suppliers from China because of a QA problem that has to be fixed in days, not weeks.

    You are at the beck and call of a board who says the board meeting in July (where you are supposed to be on vacation with family) is being rescheduled the week before (The Board’s Secretary has one job- and that is to make the schedule and decide the agenda… and guess what, if it’s not on the agenda, it doesn’t get decided… it’s actually a balance of power between the Pres/VP, Treasurer, Secretary)

    And you make $1mm or more. And make even more.

    But then you turn 55 and your kids are estranged, but you still have your other CEO friend group you hang out with in Jackson Hole, Miami, Park City, and Hawaii.

    Yes- I think it’s worth $32 MM to put up with these losses, IMHO.

    -Jon

  21. No board member will ever vote down an outrageous package for an executive. It’s a club and they all take care of each other (and their spawns with “internships”)

  22. @Jon…. Isn’t that description applicable to a whole lot of lower paying positions in the work force, not just the poor guy or gal forced to be a CEO of a large company? Speaking of airlines and using your impression, all flight crew members would qualify for extraordinary incomes, especially those away from their children’s first day off to school, their first Christmas, first birthday, first ballet recital, etc. etc,
    Not to mention all the workers involved in travel for work and those of 24/7/365 operations.
    Heck, American business culture expects employees to read emails and stay up-to-date with their employee WHILE on “vacation”… supposedly the time to be free from work!!

  23. American Airlines has placed orders for hundreds of narrow-bodied aircraft and no new orders for wide body aircraft. With Isom’s comments that customers only care about reliability (on-time operation) and nothing else, it appears that he wants the airline to become the nation’s discount “bus service” in the air, offering a domestic route system to smother the other low cost airlines, while offering very little in other services to customers other than a drink and either pretzels or Bischoff cookies served by employees skimming the food stamp threshold. Delta and United can be the premium airlines with an impressive international operations supported by their domestic operations. AA will maintain enough of an international operation to have seats available in premium cabins to maintain their high dollar customers. Note that planning for future aircraft and refurbishment includes much larger premium cabin seating to accommodate those precious customers. It’s a plan that may have merit. Time will tell!

  24. Maxine is correct in indicating the BOD and senior corporate management goes like it does: too much back-scratching and go along to get along behavior. And, yes, a lot of the plum internships for the spawn of the more privileged is based on who you know rather than on what you know and other social associations the spawn have. We are a country of affirmative action for the rich and well-connected while people whined like crazy about affirmative action for visible ethnic minorities and women.

    About a 25-year old WLRK associate making $400k in 2024? There aren’t going to be many of them — which should be rather obvious to even the relatively ignorant, especially given the firm size/dynamic and that typically we are talking about 4 years of college + 3 years of law school and then starting work as a lawyer after graduation from law school. And that college+law school process doesn’t start earlier than 17 or 18 years of age for most of the part of the American population that goes to law school.

    Highly unimpressed by “high class professional”. He should go back to his stuffed animals and bitcoin games to try to impress the easily impressed.

  25. Yet @Mdtravel wonders why the flight attendants act the way they do. With passengers like that…

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