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Gary Leff is one of the foremost experts in the field of miles, points, and frequent business travel - a topic he has covered since 2002. Co-founder of frequent flyer community InsideFlyer.com, emcee of the Freddie Awards, and named one of the "World's Top Travel Experts" by Conde' Nast Traveler (2010-Present) Gary has been a guest on most major news media, profiled in several top print publications, and published broadly on the topic of consumer loyalty. More About Gary »

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  1. Do you think it would be possible to book this exact trip except for starting and ending at Dfw?

  2. Gary, Thanks for the reply. I do have one more question, The itinerary looks good but we are actually trying to get to koh samui and maldives. Can we get there using usairways miles or should we take a cheap flight from Bangkok to koh samui ?

  3. @bobby – I had luck booking BKK – USM RT on Thai airways as part of an award ticket where my destination was DPS. I got it to work by first booking the round trip with my stopover in Bangkok, and then added in the Bangkok – Koh Samui – Bangkok segments later. At one point I had a UA rep tell me that was an “illegal” routing, and I asked her to not change it and told her I’d call back. It took some work, but well worth it!

  4. Gary, I plan to first make and hold a reservation, then transfer the miles to ticket it. If the US Air agent prices your “to HKG with BKK stop” at 90K miles and hold, does that 90K price stay in the computer? If not, when I call to ticket, do I run the risk of the ticketing agent going to the rating desk to check again, and then want to charge more (like 120K miles)? So I should not hold and ticket, but doing both together after transferring my miles to US Air? (running another risk of no availability)

  5. Gary, you are very kind not to mention that the Delta agent was convinced you were crossing two oceans when continuing your trip from India to Moscow! That just about put me away. Now about the UA agent that asked me to spell Perth….

  6. I booked a North Asia via Europe in business award through US Airways and they charged me 100k instead of 90k. I was 4 nights in Stockholm and 5 nights in Tokyo. I called twice and they wouldn’t budge.

  7. Just booked a US Air award HKG-TPE-LAX-LAS-DEN(destination)-EWR-LIS(stopover)-FRA-BKK-HKG all business class around the holidays. First time they said it would cost 100,000 miles because they considered the destination LIS instead of DEN. I hung up and tried again and was able to get it for 90k. Not bad for a 21000 miles of flying over both oceans and including my first A380.

    They didn’t say anything about it being 9 segments, but I tried getting an open jaw (fly into DEN and out of EWR), the representative didn’t have a problem with it but when ticketing got it they refused.

  8. Gary,
    Recently booked IAD-CPH-CDG-BKK (Thai First on A380)-NRT (stay for several days) NRT-IAD using US Air miles. Tried to include a “stopover” in BKK outbound and wasn’t allowed. Tried multiple agents. Should this have been allowed? Also tried leg from Tokyo to HKG on same award (trying to spend time in multiple cities) but wasn’t allowed. What are the rules on USAir for Asia travel and can any of this be amended without a change fee if it should have been permitted initially?
    Thanks

  9. @Steve G there are few ‘real’ rules, or rather those that exist are rarely enforced, that normally what you wanted would be allowed though it’s certainly against the written rules (the routing, not the stopover).

  10. Well, i Tried to do DFW to TPE as my destination, then a stopover in BKK on the way back through Europe. The agents didn’t take the bait on TPE as the destination and 90k miles. We decided in the end to go with United since we wanted to move our stopover to SGN instead, which is definitely South Asia, and we found a couple seats in F on Thai and United on the return through Europe. Not to mention we’d have to buy US Air miles at this point since we didn’t have enough for 120k trip.

    Now getting United to ticket the award properly is a new issue though! Ugh!

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