About Gary Leff

Gary Leff is one of the foremost experts in the field of miles, points, and frequent business travel - a topic he has covered since 2002. Co-founder of frequent flyer community InsideFlyer.com, emcee of the Freddie Awards, and named one of the "World's Top Travel Experts" by Conde' Nast Traveler (2010-Present) Gary has been a guest on most major news media, profiled in several top print publications, and published broadly on the topic of consumer loyalty. More About Gary »

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  1. I thought somehow I had clicked on OMAAT, and then saw the witty sarcasm and then realized it was Gary writing.
    Keep up the good work. We need more un-whitewashed thoughts that have some humor sprinkled in.

  2. It’s not necessarily stupid. The UAE has Emirates and Etihad. If the 2 Saudi airlines are managed separately, one may prove to be better run. That said, I do not know if Saudi Arabia has a large enough market. At 35 million population, they are larger than Canada or Taiwan but there might not be enough business travel.

  3. KSA doesn’t have to compete with those legacy ME airlines. They are trying to create a new tourism destination and have nearly unlimited money.

  4. Trying to guess Saudi Arabia’s travel logic can be unnerving, just ask Jamal Khashoggi’s wife.

  5. If this “genuinely stupid new airline” will generate large orders to buy new (most likely wide-body) aircraft from Boeing, why complain? 😛

  6. Maybe the new airline will join a different alliance, giving them exposure to a different set of customers around the world. Like when a real estate developer decides to build a Marriott and a Hyatt property on their plot of land. Access to more customers.

  7. Its gonna get even more interesting as theres apparantly a plan for a 3rd dedicated mega airline in the KSA as part of the Neom project to service Neom. Instead of perhaps launching 1 new airline that could share both Riyadh and Neom as hubs nope another hugely stupid airline has to be launched as well! Supposedly 3 government run airlines competing with each other in same country!

  8. It does seem a bit Blazing Saddles idea, kind of a “We don’t like us so we’re going to do something about it.” premise.

  9. I think this airline is about paying off the US by buying Boeing aircraft. It’s the price of getting caught killing a journalist. Nothing else makes sense because otherwise why would you start this completely unworkable, unneeded airline?

  10. @Christian.
    Blazing Saddles? Are they also planning to build a railroad that will go through Rock Ridge?

  11. athe whole point is bringing attention to the modernisation supposedly happening there
    This article is exactly what they want
    ATTENTION

  12. @Gary – “. . . even under MBS.” Where does the “even” part come in? I’ve seen literally nothing to suggest he’s anything but a monarch like any other monarch. If anything, he’s more careless than his predecessors (e.g. extrajudicial killings of US residents in 3rd countries – I can’t recall a single instance of this by the previous regime).

  13. @Tampa Jim – Not unless you know something we don’t. The analogy was a reference was to arguably the most famous scene in the movie where Cleavon Little holds himself hostage.

  14. I think KSA wants to improve Saudia by pulling the lower cost pax off to another airline. Last week I flew CAI-JED on Saudia and it was an amazing diversity of people on an older A330. It was a late night flight and was completely packed. And as for the smaller KSA population the huge number of Mecca travelers brings a much larger number of people to the Kingdom. Our Saudia flight a couple of days later from JED-DMM was similar in pax.

    There are many reasons this new airline can work that those of us outside the Kingdom don’t recognize

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