Delta Air Lines reportedly removed passengers from a flight departing Washington National airport on Saturday, after riots at the Capitol last week, “because they was having a private conversation about supporting President Trump.” We have video of the passengers leaving, and from in the terminal after their removal, but not of the actual comments that prompted Delta to ask them to leave.
They were removed from a @Delta flight for supporting Trump pic.twitter.com/PFaZPILNf3
— Mike Yoder (@Yoder_Esqq) January 9, 2021
Delta airline landed a plane to remove these people because they was having a private conversation about supporting President Trump. pic.twitter.com/x1o9yeKVjb
— The Dirty Truth (Josh) (@AKA_RealDirty) January 9, 2021
The contents of private conversations can be deemed a threat. Just ask anyone making private jokes about bombs at a security checkpoint, or who is Muslim or a professor carrying weapons of math instruction.
My serious take here is that in the wake of last Wednesdays events on Capitol Hill, for flights departing Washington National airport, there was a heightened sense of fear and concern among airline crew and passengers who weren’t involved in the protests or riots. Small comments could be an early signal of future trouble. So just like innocuous comments can be taken out of context as a terrorist threat in the post-9/11 world, so too can even innocuous comments linked to last Wednesday’s events.
While I think we need to guard against overreaction – there’s hardly a need for new ‘domestic terrorism laws’ against actions that are already illegal – it’s also completely understandable that humans would be on hair trigger alert. If you’re boarding a plane after participating in events that disrupted the democratic order in this country, however briefly, just don’t talk about it until you’re safely back at home.
Now takes like this one on twitter are bad:
Won’t be flying @Delta ever again, not that I did anyways! Disgusting and unconstitutional!
— KMO (@KMO1980) January 9, 2021
First “I won’t fly them now, but I didn’t fly them anyway” is almost the definition of meaningless, and no what Delta did it isn’t ‘unconstitutional’. This tweet might be a candidate for @badlegaltakes.
However at some point, and I’m not arguing we’re there, do all of the massive subsidies for what’s already one of the most highly regulated industries, make the major airlines sufficiently a quasi-government entity such that first amendment protections begin to apply? The federal government now has an ownership stake in even Republic, Allegiant, SkyWest and every large carrier in the country and with the second round of so-called payroll support grants presumably will be taking additional stakes.
And while Delta does own a stake in China Eastern Airlines, I don’t think that makes them a Communist Marxist..China Company” as claimed on Parler. In fact Delta’s CEO was supportive of Trump before the 2016 election and was encouraged after his election – but that was self-serving, he wanted Trump’s protectionism to work to his airline’s benefit against carriers from the Mideast.
@Dwondermeant says:
“Wow Delta finally did something I can personally appreciate”
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This is surely a personal thing. Thank you for confirming!
Now do you see how pathetic it is?
These people have been lying about why they’re getting kicked off planes for the entire last year. I don’t believe this for a second.
they’re not lying about this. You think it’s righteous for government and businesses to persecute for freedom of speech? for belonging to a certain political party? for a belief??? …..To be restricted from paypal, amazon etc?….because it’s not affecting you, right?…….at least at this moment…….
…..and people wonder how the holocaust occurred…….idiots.
Yep, will never fly delta again. The ceo should be fired and those passengers given a settlement. This is bizarre O world. Anyone that supports throwing passengers off an airplane for a private conversation is nothing more than a “Sheeple”. Can’t think for themselves so they don’t care about civil liberties. I believe Stalin called them useful idiots.
Your irrational fears should have no effect on my life and rights! This can start to work both ways. Then we are in a social spiral. Of course due to political correctness and covid we are already in a social spiral.
Does anyone have a recording of what was said? I can’t judge until I hear evidence and I don’t believe anyone else should either.
Simple fact is the flight crew made the decision. Flight crews don’t go around looking for people to throw off the airplane. Someone has to do something to get considered to be thrown off a flight.
This we know….they said or did something that clearly raised the concerns of the cabin crew. They no doubt brought the cockpit crew into the loop and the ground staff. The decision was made that they had the potential to disrupt the flight. Pretty easy decision if you are there and don’t think for a second that loudly supporting what happened at the Capitol was simply stating a political point of view. It was as serious as someone after 9/11 getting on an airplane and saying something supportive of those terrorists. Attempts at violence against our leaders is as serious as it gets. It’s an attack on America and our democracy and an attempt to replace it with mob rule.
The only difference between these two attacks on our country is no Americans cheered the 9/11 terrorists.
People really are uneducated & rely solely on the media for their information. Do the research yourself & get it right before you type please! Unless you were running in the Capitol that day do you have a clue the types of people & who they support were!! If that’s all to this story just a quiet conversation in support of TRUMP 2021 I’m afraid there will be planes without employees & more passengers to come. Just saying!
Go to Trump protest, get kicked off plane, do not pass go, do not collect $ 200.00
Go to BLM protest, get free gifts, and a Delta Black Lives Matter Pin.
https://kstp.com/news/small-pin-with-a-big-message-passenger-receives-blm-pin-from-airline-after-incident-on-flight-september-4-2020/5851620/
@ Hunter – They were harassing Mitt Romney before boarding the plane and then went into a 20 second chant yelling Traitor over and over again. This was no “private conversation.” These are the useful idiots of Trump’s – and the sheeple of the Republican party. I used to be a Repubican before I woke up and saw that I’d been played. They have been being played for decades by the GOP and that is why the Dems have finally had enough – so don’t be surprised when we come down hard on these insurrectionists in Congress. They have been planning this coup attempt since FDR’s death. I’ve been watching it since the 70’s and when they took a hard right with Reagan in the 80’s. It was no surprise to me and many others that we have come to this point. And incidentally, private companies – especially when flying 35,000 ft above the ground have a right to remove anyone they want.
Burn down businesses, trash the police, march into residential neighborhoods at night – get support and love. TALK about someone other people hate – get trashed on.
So much dishonesty from left wingers. @JohnW comparing supporting trump and criticizing our democracy to supporting al-qaeda causing 9/11 is the epitome of false equivalency and the evil deceit found spreading in today’s left wing. For being the party of anti-discrimination/racism, they sure don’t take after Abraham Lincoln’s attitude of “the best way to destroy my enemy is to make them my friend” or his integrity.
Does anyone really trust the system? I can’t count how many comments I’ve seen about the justice system alone, about how the rich get away with everything and the crimes are punished disproportionately. What about the horrorshow that is lobbying, letting corporations buy our politicians? The disinformation spread in the mainstream media only serves to distract from these core issues.
@John is right. Trying to control the public view with coercion and censorship, isolating dissidents is how the Holocaust started.
Information is still coming out about what happened, CNN apparently paid one of these “terrorists”, a very left-wing one at that, 35k for footage of the event. Isn’t it illegal to fund terrorism? Yet CNN’s one of the mainstream media pillars demonizing them as such.
So much dishonesty from left wingers. @JohnW comparing supporting trump and criticizing our democracy to supporting al-qaeda causing 9/11 is the epitome of false equivalency and the evil deceit found spreading in today’s left wing. For being the party of anti-discrimination/racism, they sure don’t take after Abraham Lincoln’s attitude of “the best way to destroy my enemy is to make them my friend” or his integrity.
Does anyone really trust the system? I can’t count how many comments I’ve seen about the justice system alone, about how the rich get away with everything and how crimes are punished disproportionately. What about the horrorshow that is lobbying, letting corporations buy our politicians? The disinformation spread in the mainstream media only serves to distract from these core issues.
@John is right. Trying to control the public view with coercion and censorship, isolating dissidents is how the Holocaust started.
Information is still coming out about what happened, CNN apparently paid one of these “terrorists”, a very left-wing one at that, 35k for footage of the event. Isn’t it illegal to fund terrorism? Yet CNN’s one of the mainstream media pillars demonizing them as such.
Loc and Riff gotta laugh about someone pointing fingers and claiming dishonestly while posting the same message twice using different names!
I do agree that censorship and forcing a certain point of view simply buries a problem and doesn’t make it go away. However there has to be consequences when someone’s point of view crosses the line and results in violence.
Whether it be proud boys in Portland inciting violence and others following suit (both equally responsible), anarchist left wingers in Seattle or Q anon fueled Trumpies attaching our Capital. It’s all wrong. However the events of January 6 were beyond the pale. As much as because the President of the United States has been found responsible by Democrats and Republicans alike and the fact that attacking the Capital and our elected leaders is in fact domestic terrorism at its worst…..and it was all because Trump believes if you tell a lie over and over again eventually you will get enough people to believe you and if it’s outrageous enough it will result in an outrageous response. You people who support what Trump did while the pandemic blew up across the country are being played.
You’re an idiot if you give identifying information to every website you sign up on and you deserve all the spam you get.
I’ve never seen a proud boy wear a mask nor have I seen any evidence they incited violence. I haven’t even heard proof that republicans were behind the capital riot, the only people I’ve heard identified was a leader of antifa and a CNN “journalist”.
The radical left are the ones telling lies over and over, building up and inciting the twitter mob. You mooks can’t cite a credible source for the life of you and you should all be sent back in time to WW2 germany to get a taste of your own medicine.
@Gary, I know you try really hard to not delete comments or ban people, but I think it’s time you do some cleaning up in this thread and ban some IPs.
It’s one thing to allow differing viewpoints. It’s a completely different thing to allow direct personal attacks and outright lies.
As ever, the left will never engage a real man’s argument directly. Abraham Lincoln himself said those who deny others freedoms deserve them not for themselves.
@tiff, biff, or whatever you want to name yourself next time… I have voted for the GOP nominee for president in all but 2 elections since my 18th birthday. I have voted for GOP candidates in all races >80% of the time. In the South. So, no, I am not the left.
You want my point by point argument, on the same plane as your arguments? Here it is:
Donald J Trump is not eligible to be POTUS. He is, in fact, a literal giant orange gummy bear controlled by Chinese and Russian scientists. Therefore, nothing he says can be trusted. Now, prove me wrong with real sources, instead of those fake ones you rely on.
I”m thinking Tiff/Biff/Loc may be just a bit paranoid ….sad to see the Republican Party has morphed into the party that sees deceit, threats and violence as a useful alternative to Democracy.
If anyone can read either of your comments and not see how ridiculous the sycophants on the left have become, then perhaps then you’ve won the argument.
Always about getting the last word, the biggest voice and beating down opponents without ever engaging their arguments.