Ultra-low cost carrier Avelo Airlines has contracted to run 3 Boeing 737s from Mesa, Arizona for deportation flights.
Aviation blogger and New Hampshire state legislator Seth Miller (‘sbm12’ in frequent flyer forums) is suing in U.S. District Court in Nevada (where Avelo is based) to affirm his right to publicly criticize Avelo Airlines over this service. He raised $6,000 from 70 people to fund billboards criticizing Avelo, but the airline got them taken down.
- Avelo claims his billboards criticizing the flights violate their trademark
- And a legal nastygram got the billboard company owner to remove the ad
The ads were displayed starting on Monday, May 5. Four days later, Mr. Miller said, he received the letter from the Avelo lawyer accusing him of trademark infringement and unfair competition. The airline said it had heard of “instances of actual confusion” among customers who mistakenly believed that Mr. Miller’s billboard was affiliated with the airline.
The lawyer said Avelo could recoup damages of $150,000 per infringement and asked that the billboards and an associated website be removed by 5 p.m. on Friday to “avoid any escalation of this matter.”
On the plus side, I now have a much better image of the billboard.
Of course, now they can also file a copyright claim/DMCA on this post since they took the photo.
— Seth Miller (@wandrme.paxex.aero) May 9, 2025 at 3:02 PM
The case is garnering national attention. There’s no plausible confusion and Avelo’s claim that consumers are, in fact, confused strains credulity. Miller’s right to criticize Avelo – and to identify them specifically when doing so – is fairly well-established. But the billboard company isn’t going to earn a profit on the sign if they have to spend money on lawyers. I don’t believe that New Hampshire has an anti-SLAPP statute. Perhaps State Representative Miller can address this deficiency.
That said, his tagline for the effort is “Does your vacation support their deportation?” But the truth is, if anything it’s the reverse.
- Avelo is doing this precisely because they have planes they cannot profitably fill with vacationers.
- The carrier is struggling. In fact, they will operate only one flight on Tuesdays starting June 10 (Burbank – Eugene, Oregon).
- So these deportation flights help keep the carrier going.
Credit: Colin Cooke Photo via Wikimedia Commons
I don’t see anything fundamentally wrong with taking up a government contract. I do see something very wrong about eliminating due process requirements affirmed by the courts, and taking the position that the courts have no say in such matters. Those of you who say ‘they’re illegal, they don’t have due process rights’ miss the point entirely: you don’t know whether someone is here in violation of the law or not without the ability to contest the claim. A U.S. citizen might be deported just because the government falsely or incorrectly said they were here illegally.
Miller criticizes the lack of due process, and also the conditions in which the transportation happens. How would a plane properly evacuate in an emergency with everyone shackled?
At MSP this morning: ICE drags a pile of shackles towards DHS vans as people board a GlobalX A321; fueled and loaded by Signature Aviation; departing for Omaha with the Minneapolis skyline in the background.
I counted ~30 people, all chained at their wrists, ankles, and waist, boarding today.
— Nick Benson (@ottergoose.net) April 23, 2025 at 3:29 PM
Does a business have an obligation to object to this? They might believe it’s fine, or may be indifferent and desperate for the business. But customers certainly have the right to consider whom to do business with, though encouraging boycotts rarely turns out to be effective (except when it does!).
Credit: Avelo Airlines
I’ve known Seth for probably 20 years. He and I disagree on many things. But he’s a passionate guy with an opinion that he unquestionably has a right to express, including by engaging in commerce to facilitate his speech. (An aside for Seth: your case is the perfect demonstration that money is, in fact, a key element enabling speech.)
(HT: Live and Let’s Fly)
Consider Delta if you’d like to fly with a global thought leader.
Avelo…of all airlines…should know the score: do the (moral) crime of participating in mass deportations and you will do the time of trying to repair your brand among half of the country. Avelo has the right to operate deportation flights and American citizens (including elected politicians acting as private citizens) have the right to draw attention to their actions.
Here’s hoping the courts are consistent in their interpretation of the law.
This makes me more interested in flying with Avelo. I hope the company is successful.
Not an American, so this isn’t mu beef. However, this is a trend throughout the west (as some other harmful trends as well). So it is relevant to many of us non Americans as well of course.
The lunatic idea that it is “immoral” to deport someone who is illegally in one’s country – is just that: lunacy. Brought to you by the radical left do-nothing, build-nothing, accomplish-nothing (except maybe mass death, economic destruction and general misery)
So, no – no need to try to “shame” anyone. They don’t feel shame about something as obviously legal and moral as sending someone unlawfully in another country.
**The “due process” argument is a separate one – and granted, there are valid points on each side to my mind.
There was only one Avelo route of interest to me and it got scrapped before I had a chance to fly it.
After Avelo decided to affiliate itself with DHS/ICE Barbie Noem, there was no way I would ever choose to do business with them. I refuse to do business with companies that deliberately and willfully choose to engage in human trafficking people.
I thank Seth for standing up for the rule of law and against companies that don’t support due process for all persons in the US.
@Dude26 if you are not American I’d kindly ask that you mind your own business and stay out of our politics. What you consider completely appropriate half of America considers to be cruel and inhumane, especially when it invokes people who ARE here legally and are being used as political footballs. When political leaders say what’s happening to immigrant in our country is immoral it’s immoral.
A few months back I was plane spotting at SAN (San Diego) airport and saw a GlobalX plane on the tarmac. A little while later a convoy of busses arrived at the plane. I thought it was a sports charter. Turns out one by one, people in shackles were walking up the air stairs into the plane. Didn’t realize it was a deportation flight. I started tracking the flights and they fly in repeatedly into SAN (San Diego) usually to places in Texas or Louisiana . Now I know .
@Dude26: you have no voice in this issue. Now maybe you support your “head of state” breaking laws but most sane people don’t. But the USA proved there are more insane in the US than sane so they support dictators that choose to break the law. So please, stay out of this 3rd worlds issues.
I wonder if the billboard company had a clause in their contract allowing them to review and reject what was placed on the billboard. This would allow them to reject swearing and other rough language as well as sexually explicit billboards. Avelo may not be able to directly attack what is political speech since the courts may not be able to uphold the attack due to first amendment restrictions on laws.
Can anyone erect any billboard on any public land?
These billboards are dumb, but unsurprising. The tribal zeal to support illegal aliens remaining in America is certainly strange. If I were illegally living in Europe (because, say, I love the Alps) nobody would cry for me if authorities told me I had to leave. And you are 100% correct that putting up these billboards is EXTREMELY harmful to these communities: they need Avelo to stay in business or they’ll lose their low-fare, convenient airline service. It’s really harder for a liberal activist to exercise worse judgment.
I’d also note your insistent on more “due process” for illegals is naive. There is due process, but it is way less than that which US citizens are entitled to. And it has to be. The Biden adminisration, shockingly, let in 10 million illegals, and nobody has really been given an explanation for why. You simply can’t have 10 million people COMPLETELY ignore US law coming in, and they cry “due process” when they’re being removed. It would be impossible to actually give these 10 million illegals full American-citizen-style “due process,” which is (of course) why the liberals who want these people to remain are insisting upon it. It’s a sham argument, and I’m surprised you’ve fallen for it.
For all those whose sensibilities are offended by deportation flights, perhaps you need to explain to us why illegal immigrants with violent records need to remain in the USA? Why should we have to feed and house these while waiting for endless appeals for months and or years?
What if they get released on bail, and they kill a friend or family member? Would you continue to support their “right” to due process or their “right” to remain here?
I am in favor of legal immigration. My parents are legal immigrants, and I am grateful to be here. They were/are productive members of society, my deceased Dad was a priest/pastor and my Mom is retired lab technician. They were given an opportunity and made good use of it.
What have these illegals with violent records done with the “opportunity” they stole? Many have simply engaged in bad behavior again. They been given benefits that should’ve been used for USA citizens. I’m sure there are some that may have turned over a new leaf, but that’s typically the exception.
Paul, less than halve and it’s the lunatic less than halve. Actually about 80% are against an open border.
People are dumb. If driving fast, it’s possible to get the wrong message and think it’s an Avelo ad.
25 years ago, I saw a Spirit flight load handcuffed passengers. It may have been a deportation flight or prisoner transport.
Avelo was the same airline that was caught in the middle of night in White Plains , NY flying in these non citizens a few years back. I don’t recall seeing bill boards to ban them then.
Parker, GUwonder and others,
The fact that you use pejoratives and extremist rhetoric (“Barbie Noem,” referring to deportation as “moral crime” and “human trafficking”) betrays your TDS. You should probably up your medications.
For one, it’s not “half” of America who is “sane” and opposes these deportations. Polls show that 66% off ALL Americans support this effort, meaning at least half of Democrat Americans also support mass deportations. And 97% of all Americans support deporting illegal aliens convicted of crimes of violence.
And since absolutely NONE of you complained about Obama deporting 2 Million illegals during his administration, it seems that your objections are more based on WHO is ordering the deportations.
@Sean and @George with respect, blow it out your a@@es. I don’t think a single person is suggesting we let violent criminals who are here illegally remain, so let’s stop with the alarmist rhetoric just intended to scare the suburbanites.
What we are saying is that these initiatives are using a bazooka, when a sharpshooter is indicated. We are rounding up people here legally and then refusing to fix it. We are targeting brown people while allowing white South Africans who are under no threat. Meanwhile, our leader has been caught on tape using things like the “N” word. The overt racism in all of this is NOT okay. It’s immoral. It unchristian and it’s unamerican.
If you are okay with being all those things, then good for you. I was raised better and NO amount of you or anyone else gaslighting me is going to change that. My CHRISTIAN values would never allow me to turn my back on the poor and the vulnerable.
If we can keep the conversation respectful that’s great. But know that I match energies and will not accept the normalization of things that do not reflect the intent upon what this country was founded.
@ Dude26. Thank you for your comment. There appears to be those on this site that do not tolerate comments being factual and unemotional.
@ Parker. No need to turn your back on the poor and the vulnerable, go to them instead of having them come to you. Most MINISTRIES have outreach programs that help those in need where they are. I dare say even the Catholic Charities did so . . . in the past.
These low info, uneducated, leftist lunatic pro illegal immigration advocates are nuts. They don’t cry complaint about rest of the 195 nation in the world that also have anti illegal immigration laws and most are even stricter with severe fees and fine and jail time with deportation. They only want USA to be an open border lawless illegal immigration nation,, ignoring the existing massive legal immigration system where one million people immigrate legally. God bless the USA and proud voter for President Trump and I am a legal immigrant/US citizen.
One less avgeek to follow.
I didnt get “due process” when I (and the airline I worked for) followed all the regulations for travel during covid and was asked to leave Canada. But I knew it was a sensitive issue and flew back.
Why its so hard for 45% of the population to grapple with the fact we had 12 million people ignore our laws and enter the US illegally *NOT thru a port of entry* blows my mind.
If they ignore that law, what other laws are they going to ignore.
@One Trippe – thank you for the suggestion. You show that what you do is more important than what you believe. I do and support outreach in many ways.
@jim – ‘merica!!!
@sean – been reflecting on your comments and have some thoughts. I am the grandchild of immigrants. Over time I’ve see firsthand how:
1. 99% of immigrants come here in search of a better life for their children and grandchildren.
2. Each generation’s “throwaway immigrants” fuel the economy that lets the privileged enjoy their lives more because they have low cost labor to do the things they’d rather not do.
3. Without immigrants who have always been willing to do three times the work for half the price our business models begin to buckle and we are left with the choice of improving productivity, outsourcing, or closing down.
Immigrants are capitalism’s drug and it’s got a very bad addiction.
Regardless of how you feel about deportation flights….
Shouldn’t anyone have the right to buy a billboard and write factual information on it in the USA?
@Dude26 Sadly, we have Americans who think non-Americans should not express their opinion. But, I’m guessing it would be OK if you agreed with them. So, the bottom line is, apparently, STFU unless you agree with them.
“When political leaders say what’s happening to immigrant [sic] in our country is immoral [,] it’s immoral.” Yes, that right, I don’t think through issues myself, I just adopt the stance of a political leader. And, since all political leaders agree on all issues, that’s pretty simple.
That’s the reason I’m flying avello. I hope they’re so profitable they buy more planes to deport more illegals. Is anyone boycotting Marriott, Hilton, Hyatt ?Has anyone visited New York and Chicago in the past 4 years where a low budget hotel for $125 or a high-end for $800 is now $600 and $2,000? Because the sanctuary cities and the sanctuary Biden government was subsidizing these hotel rooms for illegals and giving them food vouchers making more money in a week than our own citizens.
At least 50% of the country voted for this, and the airline should be proud to promote democracy. I am an immigrant. I did it the long, painful, legal way. I have no sympathy for those who just mosied in over the border. Of course, they should be sent home with dignity.
@GMB – I am so happy to hear you have achieved the “American Dream.” It sounds like you deserve it. I hope people reading this never have to go through what some people do to encourage them to go through what we put them through when they get here. No one should have to go through those things.
I loathe the idea that it’s OK to deport people without due process. I hope a bunch of goons show up on the sidewalk wearing masks to grab half the people in the comment section and send them to the Donald J Trump Concentration Camp El Salvador. If they can do it to anyone, they can do it to you. I hope the airline does go out of business.
No disagreement, there are millions in the US ‘without status.’ BUT, the US has laws, passed by Congress, in some cases upheld by the US SCt, that must be obeyed. Some believe they were a mistake, they should be changed. The US is, in theory at least, ‘a nation of laws.’ “Due Process” requires a very specific series of actions be obeyed in every case. As an example, in criminal cases that have a possibility of jail/prison, if you ask for an attorney one will be appointed for you. (Immigration not usually included, that’s the process). The US Government has admitted there were mistakes made. Those must be dealt with before the person is forced to leave. Period.
“I don’t see anything fundamentally wrong with taking up a government contract”
There’s a difference between engagement and actual collaboration. Avello has clearly crossed the line into collaboration here. I mean the line isn’t even visible in the rear-view mirror.
Welp, never flying Avelo again. And, yes, I’ve flown with them several times. But I’m certainly not going to support an airline so desperate for money that they’ll fly people who have not had due process, a right that OUR Constitution guarantees EVERYONE in the US, REGARDLESS of their background or immigration status. The career criminal posing as a president is trashing the Constitution, completely violating his oath of office.
There is something fundamentally wrong with companies helping illegal government actions. Avelo might have failed without these contracts, but a small company like them can’t survive when their brand is toxic to more than half the people who can afford the service they provide. They’re toast.
GMB falsely claims “At least 50% of the country voted for this”.
The conman-in-chief Mafia Don President received less than 50% of all votes cast in the November 2024 general election. That too in a general election where around two-thirds of registered voters didn’t vote for him to be US President. The plurality of registered voters didn’t even vote in the election, and the commander-in-crook DJT’s popular vote margin over his main opponent was rather small.
@ Gary
how much process is due 10 million people admitted without process? how would you achieve this?
It is always interesting to see people quoting statistics. Per census dot gov press release number CB25-TPS.29, 174 million people were registered to vote and of those, 154 million people actually voted. Per Wikipedia the main two candidates got 77,302,580 votes and 75,017,613 votes. 77,302,580/174,000,000 = 0.4442677 or about 44.4% of the registered voters’ vote. The registered voters who did not vote for that candidate comprised about 55.6% of the total. The census numbers are rounded so the results are approximate but not that far off.
They don’t use wrist and ankle shackles on random “normal” illegal immigrants, but they do on dangerous criminals who are being deported against their will.
@Parker “ Dude26 if you are not American I’d kindly ask that you mind your own business and stay out of our politics”
Pretty rich given our countries long standing practice of meddling in, quite literally, every other countries politics…
Gary,
What a lot of people don’t realize or don’t want to realize is the illegal immigrants and immigrants who have their status revoked have very little due process due them under long standing Federal immigration laws and regulations.
The judicial branch and their lawyer cohort is infringing on the Constitutional powers of both the legislative and executive branch.
You are whether you know it or not – insanely suggesting that the US taxpayer foot the bill – for defense, prosecution and the whole operational aspect – the courts and the housing of deportee immigrants.
There is a very vocal minority in this country who are indulging their emotions over reality.
On a side note. I’m sure your aviation blogger buddy who lives in NH is one of the people who we colloquially refer to as “Massholes”. Who flocked to the Live Free or Die state after thoroughly screwing up Massachusetts aka as socialist Utopia.
Seth Miller should be on the next flight out. Trash.
Due pricess for illegals? They were irdered to be deported by an immigration judge..we are enforcing our laws and Avelo has done nothing wrong..
Odd how only the left is upset about deporting illegals….
Never heard of this airline but would fly them now if it comes up.
David427 has a problem accepting legal reality in the country and loves the lawless, Constitution-hating Tr*mpupblicans. He probable even supported the January 6th insurrectionist traitors to the country.
David427 may eventually realize that the aviation blogger buddy who lives in NH is more from Florida and NY than from Massachusetts? Doesn’t matter.
About Massachusetts is a very high-performing state and the does very well on the league table for states when it comes to per capita and household income figures, educational attainment and such. But give it to losers and sub-performers to hate on people who perform and perform better than average — including immigrants and even those with irregular immigration status who are all due due process as are US citizens.
Massachusetts is a very high-performing state and it does very well on the league table for states when it comes to per capita and household income figures, educational attainment and such. But give it to losers and sub-performers to hate on people who perform and perform better than average — including immigrants and even those with irregular immigration status who are all due due process as are US citizens.
Your favorite “Maryland man” had plenty of due process. He had two hearings already, and he had a valid deportation order issued. Leftists clearly wanted 20 million illegals to flow across the border the last 4 years purely for political gain, despite the cost in money and lives paid by Americans. You claimed we needed to pass a massive spending bill to secure the border, a bold faced lie as trump secured the border immediately. Illegal crossings down over 99%. Now you want to make it as hard as possible to deport them for the same reason. You don’t care about these people, you just want to use them for political power, no matter the cost. You’re all traitors.
Just another liberal doing what they do best….. take up space and valuable resource’s LIKE AIR WATER and FOOD
Americans that would like rapist, murderers and gang members off the street might now fly the airline. As far as I’m concerned if you entered this country illegally you’re not granted due process. You gave up that right when you decided to cross the border illegally.
Just another liberal doing what they do best….. take up space and valuable resource’s LIKE AIR WATER and FOOD
When the ‘industrialists’ align with the ‘fascists,’ often this leads to atrocities.
No, it may not be literal box-cars to death-camps, yet, but we are literally renditioning people to foreign forever-gulags. So, I don’t think anyone is over-reacting here.
Avelo is clearly profiting off something that is extra-legal and extra-judicial, in some cases. It’s not just folks who have ‘had their day in court,’ it’s also people just ’rounded-up,’ sent quickly.
So, boycott them, if you wish. Speak out against them, too. It’s part of free speech. Use it or lose it. I’ve never flown them, nor do I plan to, simply because they aren’t competitive, not comfortable, don’t fly anywhere I’d want to go.
I know Seth, I like Seth, but he’s now a New Hampshire state politician and if I were his constituent, I would not be terribly thrilled about his engaging in what amounts to a political stunt far outside of his district, where only he (and his profile) stands to gain. Though at first blush this probably is more akin to an economic boycott intended to bring about political reform, rather than true commercial speech. An interesting question of law and if Seth has political aspirations beyond his current status, then this certainly demonstrates his liberal bona fides and should increase his national exposure, of course critical for fundraising.
We’ll see who (Seth or Avelo) has FA and FO.
Like it, don’t like it, just another case of people being offended and wanting other people to cater to their feelings. I am absolutely exhausted to the extent that people are expected to cater to the whims of others. Freedom of expression constitutional rights no censorship. This is a private Airline. They can serve who they want to serve and contract with who they want to contract with and they can speak however they wish to communicate. If you don’t like it don’t fly with them. That is your right.. rather let me say that is your right as a US citizen.
Avelo is not doing anything illegal or immoral. Illegal immigration’s need to be returned to their country and apply to immigrate to the US. No one seems to care when Clinton and Obama returned massive numbers of illegal aliens.
Is this what you voted for?
Why yes, yes it is.
I voted to deport lawbreakers who entered my country illegally, are straining our social services, and overcrowding our schools. I applaud Avelo. This is a simple business decision. They need to operate flights to remain profitable, and ICE has a steady stream of “passengers” for Avelo to fly.
What’s hilarious about the liberal left is that Obama and Clinton deported more illegals than Trump, and yet no one one the left said a damned thing. The TDS is on full display.
Y’all should really just disable comments.
It’s always disgusting here when I look at the comments.
There’s a really loud group of people that only listen to Fox. They seem to think they know it all, but they really just don’t have anyone else to talk too. So they just get louder.
This is blatant trademark infringement because he even copied their logo. He won’t win. This has the official look and feel of their brand.
He’s free to make a billboard criticizing the company by name but without their branding and logo.
The was no Due Process when Joe Biden’s invasion force entered the USA. There shouldn’t be Due Process for them to be removed.
I welcome LEGAL immigrants that respected our laws. As for illegal, I want every last one deported. Thank you to Avelo Airlines for running deportation flights that serve to make our country safer.
Laughable statement:
“Those of you who say ‘they’re illegal, they don’t have due process rights’ miss the point entirely: you don’t know whether someone is here in violation of the law or not without the ability to contest the claim.”
You do know whether someone is here in violation of the law. If they cannot show proof of citizenship or documents proving they are here legally they are then… here illegally and as such are not afforded due process rights like a countries citizens.
You little petty ass bitch. These people didn’t observe due process on their way INTO our country. Screw off.
@flyguymike – “You do know whether someone is here in violation of the law. If they cannot show proof of citizenship or documents proving they are here legally”
Do you carry documents with you proving your citizenship?
@OnePatriot77 Joe Biden’s invasion force??? LMFAO! Are you seriously that paranoid? If they are an invasion force they are pretty freakin disorganized and ineffective since 99% of them seem more focused on finding a job and supporting their families rather than overthrowing the US government. America is still standing. But, you probably still think Democrats are coming to take your guns and your women too.
So, tell me, since undocumented immigration continues to this day…are the undocumented immigrants entering the US now part of Trump’s invasion force or just part of his big beautiful plan? Asking for a friend.
@GaryLeff”Do you carry documents with you proving your citizenship?”
Actually, yes I do.
I carry a driver’s license which requires proof of citizenship or legal residence to receive in most states. I also carry a United States passport card in my wallet, which CLEARLY shows citizenship. Given that this is a travel site, and given that many of of have passports and passport cards, I’d wager that the proportion of site users who carry proof of citizenship or legal residence on them either directly or indirectly is rather large. Passport cards are easy to get and are supremely easy to carry around, being the size of a credit card.
Now, toss in ancillary identification that MAY require proof of citizenship or legal residence to receive, like proof of car insurance, and the proportion goes up even higher.
Gary, the old liberal trope that people can’t have ID, or can’t carry it, or whatever, is tired and obsolete. People do carry ID on them, of various forms, which may directly or indirectly show proof of citizenship. Come on, now.
@Bob Moran – 19 states and the District of Columbia as well as Puerto Rico offer drivers licenses to undocumented immigrants. It’s also possible to get car insurance with such a license, and I believe that State Farm, Progressive, Allstate and others offer policies to undocumented drivers in these states.
So, no, a drivers license and proof of insurance is not proof of citizenship.
they had no due process when they entered this country and should have no due process when they are removed from this country.
@GaryLeff,
You said, “So, no, a drivers license and proof of insurance is not proof of citizenship.” Gary, I never said that it absolutely was. I said that it MAY be. I specifically said that, “I carry a driver’s license which requires proof of citizenship or legal residence to receive in most states.” Did you see the word, “most?” Yeah, it was in there.
I also mentioned that things like car insurance MAY require proof of citizenship or legal residency to acquire – “Now, toss in ancillary identification that MAY require proof of citizenship or legal residence to receive, like proof of car insurance, and the proportion goes up even higher.” Come on, now Gary, you know what I wrote.
Finally, I mentioned passport cards, which a lot of Americans have and carry in their wallets everyday because of their small size and ease of carry. Toss in VA cards, Social Security cards, and all sorts of other secondary forms which require either citizenship, proof of residency, or similar, to receive and… Yeah, ID showing one’s legal status is very easy to carry.
Please go back and reread what I wrote.
@Bob Moran – but then the point is that citizens don’t generally carry proof of citizenship.
And passport cards make up about 15% of passport issuances in the United States. Fewer than half of Americans have passports. I do not get what makes you think that people generally carry these or carry social security cards (which aren’t designed for daily carry – the material won’t hold up).
Uh, Bob Moran, half the city of New York have no drivers license nor any need for one. So now, what would a typical person be carrying with them all the time to “prove” their citizenship? Your whole attitude of “papers please” falls nicely in line with the authoritarian impulses the MAGA bunch seems quite enamored by
“What’s hilarious about the liberal left is that Obama and Clinton deported more illegals than Trump, and yet no one one the left said a damned thing. The TDS is on full display.”
Also what’s funny is how moronic MAGgots, and those that identify with the “(Un)law(ful) & (Dis)order Party” didn’t say a damn thing about Tramp making deals with ‘El Chapo’ to allow members of his family to leave Mexico and cross into the U.S.
Yeah, the (T)ramp (D)evotion (S)yndrome afflicts this nation no end.
Deport them all.
Anyone against deporting these vermin are the enemy.
“So, tell me, since undocumented immigration continues to this day…are the undocumented immigrants entering the US now part of Trump’s invasion force or just part of his big beautiful plan? Asking for a friend.”
Apparently Tramp’s invasion force includes the family of El Chapo.
Hey MAGA….thought you all were all about removing criminal aliens.
@Gary Green card holders are required to carry it at all times. If you barely speak English and are an adult and don’t have your green card the chances are high you are illegal or at least just visiting.
We really need to require proof of legality Real ID, Green Card, or passport that everyone should carry, but we don’t currently. A citizenship card would be good.
It’s crazy to give illegal aliens drivers llicense. It shows the people who run this country are nefarious and only care about foreigners who shouldn’t even be here
Actually Gary, most Americans DO carry period of citizenship ….. in the form of a “Real ID” driver license. According to DHS, about 60% of Americans’ current driver licenses or personal IDs are Real ID compliant. And many, many more Americans are rushing to get them.
Getting a Real ID requires proof of citizenship — that’s the whole point. Add to that those people who hold passports, passport cards, military IDs and a host of other types of acceptable federal or tribal IDs and who don’t feel the need to get a new DL, that’s a significant majority of Americans who can prove their citizenship at any time. And that percentage is only growing like crazy, as people realize they need this proof to get on an airplane.
@Sean Murphy “Actually Gary, most Americans DO carry period of citizenship ….. in the form of a “Real ID” driver license. ”
No, 60% of drivers licenses are REAL ID, but only 70% of Americans have drivers licenses [85% of the population that’s 16 and older, remember the administration wants to deport kids, too!]. It’s 42% of the population that has a REAL ID, which isn’t most.
And btw REAL ID is not proof of citizenship, it’s also available to legal residents and to those with Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) or Temporary Protected Status… the Trump administration is revoking TPS from 300,000 Venezuelans who have been eligible for REAL ID (provided they’re old enough etc).
Important issue raised here—consumers deserve to know if their travel dollars support deportations. The legal response feels more like silencing than solving. Transparency matters!
Wow, these comments represent so much disinformation. Trump stated during his campaign that he would be doing 100s of thousands of deportations starting Jan 20th. So far, he has not deported even 100,000.
1-the vast majority of immigrants, legal or otherwise commit very few crimes. They do not want to get caught and try to keep very low profiles.
2- the vast majority of illegal immigrants over stay their visas. Doing this is not criminal but an administrative violation.
3- immigrants who cross the border illegally and caught by border patrol are processed. The vast majority claim asylum. That is allowed by US law. These individuals are tracked. Some (not all) are given ankle bracelets. But all are entered in the immigration system to have hearings on their claims of asylum.
4- the individuals now being deported are mostly people who ICE knew their locations. Because of that, these individuals were easily rounded up. These same individuals were promised hearings on their cases, in many instances years ago.
5-for those that think that illegal immigration to the USA has stopped, news for you, it has not.
Trump is presently deporting the easy to find individuals. Ones who were promised that their asylum cases would be heard. Ones that the government knew where they lived. That is the due process that experts complain that these individuals are not being given.
Here’s the issue, the slippery slope; if we deny due process to the most vulnerable members of American society, we begin a process of making it easier for the federal government to strip due process from all of us.
The sensible advice has long been not to carry around your SocSec card around any more than minimally necessary and to minimize the risk of losing it along with your photo ID.
Telling people to carry that around is just going to cause unnecessary trouble.
While I nearly always have a passport within 20-30 minutes of where I am, I most certainly don’t carry it or other ID with me all or even most of the time.
I don’t need ID to get around with mass transit trains and buses or to bike, walk or run. And I would certainly prefer to be able to fly around as a passenger without carrying ID.