News and notes from around the interweb:
- United Airlines CEO Scott Kirby says American is losing $800 million a year at Chicago O’Hare. I wrote that the number seemed unlikely. In fact, aviation watchdog JonNYC says the second quarter number was $70 million… $100 million loss domestic and $30 million profit international.
AA: "Interesting follow up tidbit from ORD kerfuffle– AA lost ~$100M in Domestic profit in and out of ORD in Q2, partially offset by a ~$30M gain in international. Kirby is correct that most of AA's domestic ORD network is loss-generating for P&L"
— JonNYC (@xJonNYC) December 9, 2025
- Boston’s airport now has a White Castle vending machine
- There’s a wole genre of TikTok women checking into hotel rooms…
Did she k!ll John Wick’s dog or something? pic.twitter.com/jghpaortCW
— GIDI (@Gidi_Traffic) May 1, 2025
- Disneyland is located in Anaheim which is in Orange County.
How did I not notice this before? pic.twitter.com/p4sBc8TkYv
— Today Years Old (@todayyearsold) December 8, 2025
- This has never once ended well for the passenger, yet it seems like such a good idea at the time…
Every. Single. Time. people think they can fight the system.
This cop turned what could’ve been a two-hour standoff into a fifteen-second miracle.
People don’t want drama. They don’t want speeches. They just want to fly. pic.twitter.com/QwepSopebw— Desiree (@DesireeAmerica4) December 8, 2025
- Pivot to premium.
Continuing to enjoy the @AmericanAir experience.
Paid for this seat too. pic.twitter.com/xXqQOYWLcM
— ᴅɪꜱᴛᴏʀᴛᴇᴅɢɪᴏ (@DistortedGio) December 9, 2025
Hey @AmericanAir your flight #1613 is on a pretty beat up 777-200 pic.twitter.com/z9gZvG23Sk
— Dr. Huk (@hukolac) December 9, 2025
Disney World is also outside Orlando city limits
Tell Kirby stick with United does well. United rises not by exploiting, dissing or exposing American, but just doing so good that the rest of us say ‘Who’s American?”
If AA was losing $800 million annually in Chicago they probably would not have invested $30 million purchasing 2 additional gates at that location.
Unless, of course, the plan is to turn around and sell these gates to United?
The sh1t insecure women will do for attention on tik tok continues to amaze me, but the fault lies with media that gives these morons attention
I doubt JonNYC even knows what FAC is
Is the JonNYC who was banned from Flyertalk and sued in his home state for libel? Just asking for a friend.
To each according to his ability, to each according to his needs.
United should give American $800M. If not, tax United $800M.
On social media, there are a lot of posts about weaponizing taxes to punish billionaires and a lot of posts expressing extreme jealousy. So AA should be jealous of UA and UA should be punished!
I hope that the menu on White Castle vending machine allows for ordering a half dozen or a dozen at a time.
While I am pretty sure that AA does not lose $800 million/yr at ORD, jon’s comments mean absolutely anything without documentation.
The fact that Gary, Ben, and Matthew give him a platform to spread his rumors and stolen information is all that is a travesty.
Maybe AAL should take a page from the Dear Leader playbook and sue Kirby and UAL for $1 billion defamation or whatever; could make up for whatever shortcomings they have at ORD.
@Julie — You’re not wrong. JonNYC is quick to dish it out, but can rarely take it, himself. Jon, share your ‘findings,’ but, half the time, it’s just smoke and mirrors…
@Tim Dunn — Nice roast, sir. LOL.
I wonder if UA makesmoney on their domestic ORD flights. Probably a small amount.
Imagine a world where your existence and life essence is based around being the equivalent of a 1950s switchboard operator and sharing all the gossip with the girls
— Oh wait. That’s actually exactly JonNYC’s purpose and fulfillment in life
Glad it makes you happy. It gets sad after a while all the nonsense you sift through and post in hopes something is right from all the gossip you’re hearing.
@Plane Jane — I’m all for ‘hot goss,’ but, yeah, please keep roasting Jon. Eat up Martha.
That call button in the middle of the cop hauling that passenger off was…
*chef’s kiss*
When you’ve been denied boarding (or kicked off) you’re coming off that flight one way or another. If it comes to the point a cop needs to get involved trespassed from the airport and on a No Fly List.
@Gray — A *chef’s kiss* to your use of “*chef’s kiss*”…
@George Romey — But, George, your repeated comments on here and elsewhere would have use believe that there is no accountability? So, what is it? Are there rules, penalties, consequences, deterrence, or not? Sure, it’s not perfect, nothing is, but I think we reasonable enforcement here. Sometimes, yes, it isn’t enough, other times, sure, it’s too much. Still, trying.
$100M loss domestically and $30M profit for long haul.
@Gary do you think this is after properly attributing revenue?
Note how White Castle is tapping into the “I hate all this tipping” movement. Clearly spelling out “No Tips”.
Scotty continues denigrating AA and is still sulking over AA hauling his ass out the door.
He should focus his efforts on fixing UA’s problems – abysmal meals in J/F cabins, horribly cramped Polaris seats, and let’s not forget those wonderful 772s with 8 across in J.
Maybe he should negotiate a contract with the F/A workforce instead of pissing on AA.