About Gary Leff

Gary Leff is one of the foremost experts in the field of miles, points, and frequent business travel - a topic he has covered since 2002. Co-founder of frequent flyer community InsideFlyer.com, emcee of the Freddie Awards, and named one of the "World's Top Travel Experts" by Conde' Nast Traveler (2010-Present) Gary has been a guest on most major news media, profiled in several top print publications, and published broadly on the topic of consumer loyalty. More About Gary »

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  1. to me it just shows how basic this so called “first class” in some airlines really is

  2. I disagree with your premise that this is not about kids in premium cabins. In my youthful travel agent days many years ago we had a number of very wealthy Latin American clients. On one occasion one of them was in the office and spoke with the boss and I discreetly eavesdropped. The client was flying first class with his wife but their daughter was in coach. The boss tactfully asked why, since it was obviously not about money. He replied that if he flew his daughter in first class then what could her husband (someday) offer her that she didn’t already have?

    Even rich kids need some dose of what normal people deal with in order to appreciate their wealth.

  3. One of the most essential truths of life is: “Luxury, once tasted, becomes a necessity.”

    IMHO, kids don’t belong in the front, no matter what. They don’t need wider seats, more room, adult libations, or most any other perks of the first class.

  4. The smalls don’t have a filter. You cannot appreciate what might be nice until you have experienced everything . Stuff I have shared with my children.

  5. Why is the never-posted-before poster always claiming AI? And what is “Calude”?

  6. I have no children. That’s my contribution to society. But, if I did, this kid would fly couch untill they wised up.

  7. Personally, I favor Singapore Airlines over Emirates – that poor kid is deprived.

  8. Great article – enjoyed it. Just read the NYT La Premiere article from the other week yesterday (worth a read) which provides the reminder that many of the truly wealthy simply don’t want to interact with regular people and have built ecosystems not to do so.

    Ultimately this is simply a question of personal value and expectations. It can sometimes be challenging to actually see how the other half lives. Or – you can see how the other half lives and choose not to value it as much. Some things are nicer, some things are not. It’s not really about the kid – could have had the same comment if a wealthy couple onboarded and said it’s not as good as Emirates. The kid just adds further psychological torture to someone who already assigned outsized value and expectations to a first class flight.

  9. Whoever that moron is in that post he’s everything wrong with society. Maybe do a bit of research before buying first class to see if it’s worth it.

  10. There is always someone richer than you. It is a waste of time to worry about it or envy them.

  11. Thoughtful post, Gary – thank you. I took a moment to think about why I find the inevitable “kids don’t belong in permium cabins” banter so tiresome. I guess it comes down to the fact that it’s a point of view that can be driven by only a handful things:

    1. Resentment of people who have more disposbale income (or points!) than you.
    2. An absurd belief that humans under a certain age are inherently more poorly behaved in “refined” public environments than humans over that age.
    3. A belief that treating kids to certain luxuries results in spoiled and ungrateful people.

    Nos. 1 and 2 are so vacuous that they hardly merit a rebuttal (I am especially bemused by the commenters, one of whom chimed in on this post, who believe they are taking the moral high ground by not procreating, as if the larger goal was somehow extinction of the species). Re no. 2, as you regularly point out, it’s entirely dependent on the individuals in question.

    Only no. 3 is at all thought-provoking. While I can respect this position, it really only flies (no pun intended) if either (a) your kids are old enough to fly in a separate cabin, or (b) you’re willing to fly in the back with them as a “teachable moment.”

    But utlimately, it wouldn’t be an online forum without a dose of nonsense.

  12. @Michael Fitzgerald — Yeah, but, he’s morally, ethically, and emotionally bankrupt, so…

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