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Gary Leff is one of the foremost experts in the field of miles, points, and frequent business travel - a topic he has covered since 2002. Co-founder of frequent flyer community InsideFlyer.com, emcee of the Freddie Awards, and named one of the "World's Top Travel Experts" by Conde' Nast Traveler (2010-Present) Gary has been a guest on most major news media, profiled in several top print publications, and published broadly on the topic of consumer loyalty. More About Gary »

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  1. Curious about how poorly Google handles searches, I typed ‘American Airlines JFK telephone number’ and sure enough, two (2) imposter leads – and crummy ones at that – showed up among the first 20 Google results.

  2. in my experience, BA does as little as is inhumanly possible for their passengers. Run away from them!

  3. Google allows fake ads that scam people just to make a buck? No wonder they changed their slogan from “don’t be evil”.

  4. Your last statement is on point… file a Department of Transportation Consumer Complaint.

    That may or may not result in the desired or fair outcome, however this is the ONLY wait to make sure it gets past the form letter denials since each of these complaints filed with the DOT gets reviewed somewhat up the chain.

  5. I wouldn’t bother with the US Dept of Transportation. Since the flight was LHR-ATL and return, I’d start with the UK Civil Aviation Authority, https://caa.co.uk They will likely be much more responsive, especially for BA flights.

    Or file in both places.

  6. What’s surprising is that at least on X, BA requires a lot of info including address, how many passengers on the reservation, last 4 digits of credit card used to make the purchase etc., before they will make changes.

  7. The first rule is that when you find yourself in a hole is to quit digging. This passenger did not quit digging. Lost something an airplane? Go to the airport lost and found and if that doesn’t work, go to the airline office. Less convenient? Yes. But a whole lot less likely that you would be talking to a scammer. I don’t see why any company owes him anything. After all it was an act of negligence leaving the jacket behind. Everything after that was wrong moves and negligence. If he wants compensation, track down the scammers and take them to court.

  8. @1990 – and here I thought you were going to take the opportunity to say that relying on AI searches is an unreliable tool and a stock market bubble…

  9. Scary! Paypal’s official website has a scam number when you press the “Call us” button.

    The real number is (888) 221-1161.

  10. I think the bigger issue is BA hates its passengers – on a flight the cabin crew forgot to give BA could care less.

    BA will do nothing to “serve” its passengers.

  11. I have long thought it rediculous that having a confirmation number and last name is the sole roadblock to ticket cancelation, while at the same time airlines sending email confirmations designed to be shared with others that include this confirmation number. In a word of apps and MFA, how do we not have some secondary layer, a whiff of security, around this?

  12. Why would you put all the details on Twitter? I can see posting something generically seeking advice from other users, but surely you would send the specifics in a private communication, to the company, wouldn’t you? It seems to me he was begging to be scammed. Not that BA handled it correctly, but we always need to be alert to scammers.

  13. @jns. Yes, totally. In the screenshot, the guy asks “who is responsible”… dude, *you* are responsible.

    I also wonder why he didn’t tell BA to go pound sand, and book the return flight on another airline. He may have been holding out hope of a partial refund, but 5k is a big bet.

  14. I think most airline’s actually hate their customers some more than others. You’re a correct British airway one of the worst. But only the airline industry treats executives first employees second and customers third when it should be the exactly the other way around

  15. If I read this article correctly, it applies to a gentleman…singular…not plural. So, why does the author refer to the person as “he” or “him” in one sentence and “them” or “themselves” in another? Which “gender” is he kowtowing to? I agree with others that an internet search, using whatever search engine you use, puts “sponsored” or “paid” results up top. Recently, a friend booked a ticket on a major airline. She questioned me about a booking fee charged and why, when she went to the airline’s web site, she couldn’t change her seat. As soon as I looked at her reservation information, she booked it through a third party that used the airline’s name as part of the URL. Something like, http://www.XXXairline.bookingagent.xxxairline.com. She fell for it. Luckily, she was able to cancel the reservation, went to the correct airline web site and found a better price, no booking fee and able to change her seat at will. I blame the search engine, the crooked booking agents and the airlines for not prohibiting the use of their name by a booking agent. Yes, the airline can enforce the use of a trademark name.

  16. Please spellcheck….. Atlana, cancellion. Starting a sentence with a capital And. This gave me a headache to read.

  17. Google has a similar problem with searches for concert or show tickets. The aftermarket reseller/price gouger sites appear before the site of the actual performing/presenting organization in the results list . Can’t trust their results anymore.

  18. Reminds me of the fools who leave their boarding pass stubs in the seat pocket – I have:

    – Your name
    – FF# (though some are masked now)
    – Record Locator

    Can easily do what the folks above did with all that – Even with BA MMB – that’s all I need to cancel a a booking

  19. Apparently Google now intentionally doesn’t put the best results first because you see more adds trying to find the good one.

  20. A complicating factor is that many companies make it very difficult to find a contact phone number on their website – searching with google is sometimes the only way to find it.

  21. I have my preferred carriers on my Contact list using phone numbers I got from their websites.

  22. Sadly this is par for the course with British Airways. After five weeks of waiting for a flight cancellation refund I raised a customer service case a week ago, which was closed within an hour a useless generic ‘help’ email totally unrelated to my request. And then after I told them to reopen it they then asked me ‘for my security’ to email a copy of the passport that I used to check in for a flight I never took. Unfortunately it’s normal behaviour for BA and, I suspect, deliberate policy in the hope that people will just give up.

    An alternative course of action would be to raise a complaint with CEDR, their independent dispute resolution party. I would go with the same arguments as you are suggesting though, that the passenger did not cancel the flight and has been denied boarding. As a British airline they are subject to the EC261/2004 customer protection legislation retained on the British statute books after Brexit.

  23. How do you know or is there a way to know you’re calling A number for an airline that is not a scam.

  24. @johnny
    RE: Address, last 4 digits etc. Those are the standard verification questions. You can get one wrong OR request a different question ( eg: instead of the last 4 digits can you ask me another question. I do this regularly).
    They’re designed to protect the pax by requiring a cumulative amount of personal data that between them shouldn’t, statistically, all be in the hands of a scammer. They’re also legally required to comply with consumer & data protection laws, GDPR compliance and the likes.

    Obviously anyone ever being asked for a complete card number should immediately hang up and contact BA via their website contact details as mentioned.

    Even if you’re communicating via X DMs/ live chat the customer verification requirements still apply ( and are limited in what questions/ information comply )

  25. Why do you keep bouncing back and forth between he and they? Do you have ai right this article for you or something? You’ve been doing this too long for such a sloppy example of writing.

  26. “The agents pretending to be Delta charged her $1,000 to move her and her granddaughter to flights the next day when their original itinerary was cancelled. (Delta Air Lines shockingly covered the cost.)”

    There is nothing remotely shocking about this to me. I have flown with DAL numerous times and have never had a bad experience. I have been delayed overnight on two occasions, and both times was transported to a comfortable hotel and provided either meals. Delta is old-school. I never fly with any other airline if I can avoid it.

  27. (Corrected post)
    The agents pretending to be Delta charged her $1,000 to move her and her granddaughter to flights the next day when their original itinerary was cancelled. (Delta Air Lines shockingly covered the cost.)”

    There is nothing remotely shocking about this to me. I have flown with DAL numerous times and have never had a bad experience. I have been delayed overnight on two occasions, and both times was transported along with everyone on the flight to a comfortable hotel and provided with rooms and meals. Delta is old-school. I never fly with any other airline if I can avoid it.

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