News and notes from around the interweb:
- Delta Air Lines kicks off passenger who refuses to remove his vulgar MAGA hat (‘Build Back Better My Ass’):
BREAKING – Delta Airlines is facing massive backlash as customers boycott and demand refunds after the airline refused to take action against a pilot and DEI flight attendant who removed an elderly man from a flight for wearing a MAGA hat. pic.twitter.com/SSqOsjmqha
— Right Angle News Network (@Rightanglenews) October 9, 2025
 - Delta Sky Clubs are marginally better than United Clubs and American Airlines Admirals Clubs on average, but there’s nothing inside worth standing in a line like this for (and when there’s a line, it’s going to be super busy inside, so less nice than normal). Would you wait in this line to get in?
Nothing says premium and exclusive like waiting in a long line.
byu/FormalPalpitation643 indelta - Such a bad customer experience.
We were forced to check our carryons because overheads were “full”. Deceitfulness is @united policy! pic.twitter.com/k39EtNOXRW
— SamN (@SamNikkha) October 11, 2025
 - Delta One lounges offer mostly mid wines but merchandise the good stuff for sale:
 - Lyft scraps feature that let drivers see how often riders tip
 - Hotel management company name generator.
 - With the U.S. imposing large Visa overstay deposits (which just encourages coming here illegally), the West African nation of Mali has decided to hit back imposing a $10,000 visa bond on visiting Americans. That… will not help them. Our policy makes it more costly and cumbersome for legal visitors to bring value to the U.S. economy. We’re relatively wealthy, we can afford to be stupid. Mali cannot afford to mirror our self-flaggelation.
 - Seeing your opponent’s chessboard does not… give you an advantage.
Got matched with the guy in front of me he didn’t realize I could see the board from his side pic.twitter.com/dN0GH2gHTY
— thysbe (@thysbe1) October 11, 2025
 


I don’t understand the waiting in line thing. I’ve had SkyClub access now for about 20 years and before that NWA Worldclub. If the line is more than 5 or so people long I’m heading to an airport bar or finding an empty gate.
I’m fine with removing the guy with the hat.
If the MAGA folks don’t want LBTQ, Pro Palestine, and other speech restrictions, then their offensive hats and shirts fall in the same category.
Can’t have it both ways.
Wait! Forget the ignorant hat. Captains name was P. Lane. Best part!
I doubt anyone would ever be removed for having “LBTQ” clothing.
@David your argument is complete BS. Pax and employees have been brutally harassed for wearing anything the MAGA folks disapprove of. So, sorry, not sorry. If you don’t have to look at a Free Palestine pin I should not have to look at a MAGA hat and if grandpa doesn’t like it he can stop antagonizing people and stay home.
Thank you, @Doug and @Parker, for stating the obvious, actual ‘common sense’ approach here. However, such ‘dress codes’ are challenging to enforce, because, that obligation falls onto gate agents, flight crew, etc., which really shouldn’t have to ‘police’ passengers’ attire. So, it’s kinda, all or nothing, isn’t it? Ideally, passengers wouldn’t go out of their way to try to offend others; and, hopefully, airline personnel can de-escalate as best as possible.
If the hat said what it said, the person was mocking MAGA and what the Trumpublican signature bill this year is doing.
Parker: I think David is being sardonic. “LBTQ” isn’t really a thing, but “LGBTQ” is closer to being a thing, so no one really wears “LBTQ” clothing.
Airlines aren’t removing pax for pro-Palestine pins. The issue has been those worn by FAs. And, so, no, people shouldn’t be removed for MAGA hats. But in this case, it was about the vulgarity (and most likely the wearer’s attitude about removing the hat). Of course, any pax wearing a pro-Palestine pin, attire supporting LGBT+, MAGA gear, or even a cap for that college football team I hate shouldn’t be booted by the airlines. And, any pax brutally harassing (really just harassing) a person wearing such things should be kicked off the plane.
@This comes to mind — Ah, so, vulgarity is the issue. What if the ‘profane’ words are implied, like, ‘Let’s Go Brand…’? If we work through this together, I think we can produce a pamphlet to help…
Good for Mali. US is completely unreliable, cut off all aid with no warning, and added tariffs, so they should discourage US business and visitors. Most of the global economy is outside of the US, and most of those countries are much more ethical.
I’m glad Delta enforces common sense standards. Don’t wear clothing that is blatantly offensive. Better yet, dress like a professional and be an example for your family and others
That’s not s “MAGA” hat any more than wearing a red hat that said kiss my a%s.
“Wine experts can’t tell good wine from bad, decades of research shows”
https://boingboing.net/2025/10/13/wine-experts-cant-tell-good-wine-from-bad-decades-of-research-shows.html
@George Nathan Romey:
Most of the criticism of the BBB bill was from the MAGA folks. I have no problem with calling the hat MAGA, but I don’t see that warrants removal. FAs, yes, they should not be wearing Palestine pins–you don’t espouse positions while acting for your employer, or in the attire of your employer. But this was a passenger, not an employee.
@GUWonder, that was the “Big Beautiful Bill,” this man’s hat was trashing ” Build Back Better” which was Biden’s infrastructure bill with profanity on it. As rightfully pointed out, this isn’t a MAGA hat, it was a red hat with profanity on it like the other guy’s whose removal he was protesting.
@GUWonder That was the “big beuatiful bill,” this is not an anti-Trump hat, it is criticizing “Build Back Better” which was Biden’s signature infrastructure bill with vulgarity. It is not a “MAGA Hat” it is a profane hat that is red.
Did nobody read the linked story? The captain claimed that he (the captain) is ultra MAGA and the guy was kicked off for failure to remove the hat after being instructed to do so. It was about the vulgarity. But, go ahead imagine it happened however you want to imagine it happened: that’s the norm here.
Wanna remove a hat we should remove all logos. Just a symptom of humanity. 90% of you are not worth anyones time. On your very very best day you usually are a disappointment. As a minority in USA I can you tell you even on your best day (liberals/conservatives) you are utterly a waste. Keep thinking we like you please.
That word is considered vulgar? Is but also considered vulgar?
Good ole boy from the South wearing his red @ss hat looking for attention that day (and maybe an excuse to call the governor whom he “knows”) then got a “talkin to” out in the hallway.
Idk, the one time and place I especially appreciate people being quiet, non-religious, non-political (and not too drunk) conforming sheep is loading single file into 6×33 rows, soon to be pressurized aluminum missile hurling thru the sky for several hours…
And yes, I always sit near the entrance/exit on a plane and I too have “called” my Governor (a few things!)
@This comes to mind — ‘Did nobody read’ … reminds me of @DesertGhost repeating twice on the recent post about the Airlines Confidential podcast, offering no opinion himself, but just berating his fellow commenters that we should ‘actually listen’ to the podcast. We did. We read. We listened. We did our ‘homework.’ We ‘care’ enough to be here. And, we sometimes have opinions on those facts. But, apparently, some of y’all don’t like others’ ‘hot takes.’ It’s understandable; you’d prefer to see reinforcement of your own positions, not be challenged, etc. I get it. However, if our take doesn’t conform to yours, it doesn’t mean we didn’t read, watch, or listen; it means we just happen to disagree (say, on whether that’s a good policy, or the right way to handle something), hopefully respectfully, and that’s ok, too. It’s alright to disagree. Healthy to debate, too. Embrace the give-and-take!
Easy……Just MakeAmericaGreatAgain.
The title of this article is misleading because the passenger was NOT wearing a MAGA hat. While the hat color was a similar red color, the slogan on the has was “Build Back Better My Ass”. Is it vulgar and was Delta justified in removing the passenger? That call is up to Delta’s discretion. It’s not a hat I would choose to wear but it doesn’t really bother me either. We now live in a society full of hypersensitive fragile people that are triggered by the smallest things.
The pilot’s name is P. Lane….
Isn’t Mali still overrun by library burners, coupsters, and Russians? Always wanted to go to Timbuktu but don’t think I am going to make it.