Two Airlines Responsible For 70% Of All Involuntary Denied Boardings

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  1. I happen to know the first airline story because a friend was named after the aircraft designer, Thomas Benoist. What the story leaves out is how Benoist died. Versions vary, but they involve a streetcar and a telephone pole in Ohio – Wikipedia says he stepped off the streetcar and struck his head on the pole, the version I heard says he leaned out to see his upcoming stop and hit his head on the passing pole. Either way, it’s interesting to see how safety standards have changed.

  2. RE: Age discrimination – The Legacy of Smisek continues.

    I really don’t understand why anyone cares how old an employee is, and why youth is preferred in employees (this may be my bias, but I’ve never heard of discrimination against *young* employees). IBM recently was revealed to have spent several years actively trying to push out “older” folks to make room for millennials.

    As a millennial myself, just, why? With age comes experience, and in the case of these particular UA employees, they weren’t the salty “I hate my job” types if they were giving away free alcohol. I really feel like there ought to be more punitive damages for the poor performance of whatever manager(s) fired them.

  3. More remarkable than that American and Southwest constitute70%+ of the involuntary DBs in the country is that Delta had just 2 involuntary DBs for all of 2021 according to the DOT – and those 2 were on DL regional airlines. Delta boarded more than 127 million on its network – more than any other airline except for American – and nearly 98 million on Delta mainline which saw no IDBs.
    Allegiant and Hawaiian were the only two airlines that had no IDBs on their networks.

  4. @jamesb2147 — “I really don’t understand why anyone cares how old an employee is, and why youth is preferred in employees …”

    Perhaps it has to do with having to pay higher wages and benefits to those who are older, and with higher seniority, than those who are younger? Or in some other markets overseas (eg, Asia), older flight attendants just aren’t that prevalent due to various physical “standards” that emphasize youth and “beauty” (eg, weight and measurement requirements)?

  5. I am surprised that Southwest has so many involuntarily boardings. Unlike most airlines, they do not oversell flights.

  6. “There’s enough background immunity in Hawaii from vaccination and prior infection that these restrictions no longer offered meaningful incremental protection, so this clearly makes sense.”

    This statement could be false. This is based on being vaccinated no longer provides that good protection. Decent protection against death. Not so good protection against getting sick and passing it to others. Before omicron, vaccines were better. Vaccines are still far superior to being unvaccinated.

  7. @derek — “Vaccines are still far superior to being unvaccinated.”

    From the March 1, 2022 issue of The Expose from the UK —

    “The latest data published by the UK Health Security Agency confirms deaths are rising dramatically among the triple vaccinated population whilst declining steadily among the not-vaccinated population in England.

    With the most recent figures showing the fully vaccinated accounted for 9 in every 10 Covid-19 deaths over the past month; and the triple vaccinated accounted for 4 in every 5 of them.”

    Read the entire report at —

    https://dailyexpose.uk/2022/03/01/russia-distraction-uk-gov-revealed-triple-vaccinated-account-9-in-10-covid-deaths/

  8. @C_M — “… you really have no case.”

    ROFLMAO! Have you actually read and digested the actual *data* that were presented in the Expose article? Or from the original source published by the UK government? Or are you just naively and ignorantly “judging a book by its cover,” as too many lemming zombies habitually do (ie, “killing the proverbial messenger while totally ignoring the message, itself”)?

    The website that you provided to purportedly “debunk” the Expose really says *nothing* at all about the veracity of *data* actually presented in the Expose article! That website is merely comprised of some pro-establishment hacks who voice their own conjectures, *without* any real facts to back themselves up! Just because they “say so” does *not* mean that what they “say” represent the Real Truths! So they’re guilty of perpetrating the very acts that they were purporting to “debunk”! Is that irony or hypocrisy?

    You need to look past the *actual* conspiracies against websites such as Expose and try to digest the actual *data* that were presented, for yourself … reference the original *data* from the UK government, if necessary! Look for the Real Truths behind the global pandemic atrocities … it can actually set your mind *free* of the programmed mindset that everyone, worldwide, has too willingly succumbed to, for far too long!

  9. @StrictlyFacts – TLDR. I don’t need to look at the “data” behind the Flat Earth Theory, the Moon Landing Hoax, or every JFK conspiracy. I have a life. I suggest you get one too.

  10. @C_M — “TLDR”

    I’m *not* impressed with your response … do you *not* have the intellect to tackle the real *data* from those UK government reports? If *not,* then go ahead and continue to wallow in your naive and ignorant mindset about the Real Truths behind the global pandemic atrocities! Your loss … not mine!

  11. @C_M —

    NO sympathy from me on your personal reading problems, so you can now stop your tired old trolling responses!

  12. @Just The Facts, The Daily Expose does not produce peer-reviewed research. It’s a blog. It’s “report” is a claptrap of cobbled together thoughts barely one step above a stream of consciousness poem. It’s “report” is devoid of any information related to the statistical analysis used to obtain their “conclusions.” Ergo, it’s not a real source of information. To quote the Daily Expose as a reliable source of information is the equivalent of citing reviewers ratings about a product that you found on the internet as a scientifically-based analysis of the reliability of that product. Honestly, the most depressing thing about all of this is that humans are so impressionable that they can read a few things on the internet and then form what they think is an intelligent opinion about what is actually an incredibly complex issue, and then further be allowed to broadcast that opinion with a megaphone as if it is even remotely accurate. Sad.

  13. @StrictlyFacts – Yes, it’s fun trolling the troll. Kind of like scamming those Nigerian princes.

  14. @Dan — “The Daily Expose does not produce peer-reviewed research. It’s a blog. …”

    I don’t know if you’ve followed my prior posts, but I do a mix of references to actual medical clinical trial reports, as well as bona fide news sources, as well as private blogs. I view blogs as guide posts (no pun intended) on certain issues and *not* as substitutes for actual trial reports; this said, the blogs that I do reference will include references within, to the actual *data* or “official” reports from either government reporting agencies or trial reports, so to indict blogs just because they’re blogs, and just because they do *not* subscribe to your personal views, is *not* at all a credible critique! If you do *not* trust the conclusions of those blogs, then just look beyond those and inspect their referenced actual *data* or “official” reports, instead!

    Of course, there *are* private blogs that are solely comprised of unsubstantiated opinions, and it’s their right to post those as opinions, but when blogs are willing to include actual references to original sources of *data* and official reports, then I give them much more credibility over the others.

    Furthermore, if you’ve followed government reports from the likes of NIH/CDC/FDA, you should already *know* that these particular “official” sources have been serious perpetrators of *actual* DIS-information about this entire COVID-19 pandemic, all along — don’t wear masks until wear masks until don’t wear masks; wear masks even when outdoors with the sun shining and wind breezes blowing; “vaccines” are the *only* way to survive this pandemic, so get fully jabbed because those cellular genetic therapies are totally *safe,* and you can’t get infected, can’t spread, and won’t die, afterwards; kids are at high risks of getting and spreading COVID-19 so they must be jabbed all the way down to age 5; etc, etc, etc.

    I often find that private blogs *can* present *more* of the Real Truths than government or big pharma sources that have deeply entrenched self-interests (ie, for the sake of that almighty $$$)!

    Once again, you should *not* attack the messengers, just because you don’t agree with their views, while totally ignoring their delivered messages!
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    @C_M — “Yes, it’s fun trolling the troll.”

    Funny how you say that as you’re looking at yourself in the mirror!

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